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flaris

Banned
What do you think was the main reason for the successful Operation Sea-lion ?

Most historians think that the Nazi's invasion force were about a day from collapse when the government fled to Canada and the remaining forces gave up.

What major change would have led to a failure of Sea-lion?
 
What do you think was the main reason for the successful Operation Sea-lion ?

Most historians think that the Nazi's invasion force were about a day from collapse when the government fled to Canada and the remaining forces gave up.

What major change would have led to a failure of Sea-lion?

The time-travelers coming back through time and giving the Nazis large stockpiles of futuristic technology and simultaneously assassinating everybody in Britain with any significance probably helped.
 
The time-travelers coming back through time and giving the Nazis large stockpiles of futuristic technology and simultaneously assassinating everybody in Britain with any significance probably helped.
Don't forget sinking the entire Royal Navy.
 
If Germany hadn't specifically reorganised its economy for the sole purpose of invading Britain in 1933 this wouldn't have worked. Similarly Sea Lion was dependent on Austrian, Czech, Polish and French acquiescence to a diplomacy not seen in Europe before or since. Finally, had the United Kingdom's elite not picked two general strikes with the trade union movement in the 1930s, perhaps the chaos that the United Kingdom suffered in the the 1920s and 1930s may have allowed for successful national unification.

Sea Lion was a long time coming, and oh so obviously reliant on contingency after contingency and for much of Europe acting bizarrely against their own interests.

yours,
Sam R.
 
Britain electing Lansbury in 1935 and the ensuing complete abolition of the armed forces definitely made it possible, if the Tories or a different Labour leader had won they might have still had some weaponry in the British isles when the time came.
 
I guess the meteor hitting Scapa Flow in '38 was essential to Sealion' success, no matter how much Nazi historians try to downplay it
 
WWI French war reparations going to companies owned by England. It made them more willing to allow Germany to use French locations to help in the attack.
 
Without Lt. Sulu misjudging the Enterprise's timesling, they never get thrown back in tme to 1940, and without Chekov's bout of madness, the Enterprise doesn't fire a photon torpedo straight into Scapa Flow, destroying the British fleet. Without those two strokes of luck for the Germans Sealion probably doesn't work.
 

Grimbald

Monthly Donor
The typo in the American declaration of war that made the US declare war on the UK rather than NSD certainly had an impact.
 
I dont know what you all mean. Surely it was the divine brilliance of the eternal fuhrer that allowed Operation Sealion to succeed?
 
Don't forget the destruction of the RAF, which as we all know was due to the Frisian Islands spontaneously assembling themselves into a colossal war-golem that cut a swath across the British countryside
 
Don't forget the destruction of the RAF, which as we all know was due to the Frisian Islands spontaneously assembling themselves into a colossal war-golem that cut a swath across the British countryside

That was NOT spontaneous--it was an obvious aftereffect of the Dalek intrusions of 1940.
 
I think the Germans training Sea Lions as heavily armed assault troops that could swim up rivers and attack the tea swilling tommies from the rear was the gamechanger. After all no one wants a Sea Lion balancing a ball on its nose and playing a tune on a keyboard made of old fashioned car horns popping up behind the lines. Its very demoralising.
 
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