DBWI: Roosevelt Runs for a Third Term

Israel

Israel

What if Franklin Roosevelt ran for a third term in 1940? Would he be challenged in the Democratic primaries? How would the general election go?
 
Aaaaasima

Aaaaasima

I think it would had been bad if Roosevelt had run. President Hull's foreign policy expierence made him a great wartime president. FDR was a depression president, NOT a wartime president. If he did win, expect the war to go differently.

Also, there is an extremely implausible book about this concept called Third times the Charm, which FDR runs for a 3rd time. WHY WOULD JOHN GARNER CHALLENGE HIM IN THE PRIMARIES?!?!

OOC: List of presidents 1941-1961

32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democratic), 1933-1941
33. Cordell Hull (Democratic), 1941-1949
34. Joseph C. O'Mahoney (Democratic), 1949-1950 (killed)
35. William O. Douglas (Democratic), 1950-1957
36. Harold Stassen (Republican), 1957-1965
 
Israel

Israel

Golfman76 said:
I think it would had been bad if Roosevelt had run. President Hull's foreign policy expierence made him a great wartime president. FDR was a depression president, NOT a wartime president. If he did win, expect the war to go differently.
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Indeed. Had Hull not been elected, then perhaps the U.S. might have used atomic weapons!

Also, there is an extremely implausible book about this concept called Third times the Charm, which FDR runs for a 3rd time. WHY WOULD JOHN GARNER CHALLENGE HIM IN THE PRIMARIES?!?!
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Pfft

OOC: List of presidents 1941-1961

32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democratic), 1933-1941
33. Cordell Hull (Democratic), 1941-1949
34. Joseph C. O'Mahoney (Democratic), 1949-1950 (killed)
35. William O. Douglas (Democratic), 1950-1957
36. Harold Stassen (Republican), 1957-1965
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OOC: Good list
 
Indicus

Indicus

Golfman76 said:
I think it would had been bad if Roosevelt had run. President Hull's foreign policy expierence made him a great wartime president. FDR was a depression president, NOT a wartime president. If he did win, expect the war to go differently.
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I agree. Likely, the Allied surge would be far worse. Rather than the USSR going up to the Rhine as IOTL, they'd be able to get to the Seine.
Golfman76 said:
Also, there is an extremely implausible book about this concept called Third times the Charm, which FDR runs for a 3rd time. WHY WOULD JOHN GARNER CHALLENGE HIM IN THE PRIMARIES?!?!
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And it shows FDR as being even better than Cordell Hull, which is insane.
 
Aaaaasima

Aaaaasima

Today, President Dave Reichert apologized to Puerto Ricans due to how the American government treated them during the Puerto Rican War of 1950-1955
 
Aaaaasima

Aaaaasima

fjihr said:
They should've been used in Japan. Damn it was bloody to liberate that nation.
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I agree. If we did use them, then the GOP wouldn't go full damage control. The war ended in 1948, which led Mahoney win by 13 points against Dewey and the Democrats gaining a supermajority in both houses of congress
 
Israel

Israel

fjihr said:
Maybe they would have surrendered if we dropped a few. It would have avoided the death of a quarter million Americans and over a million Japanese.
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I see your point. That was the thinking of Admiral Nimitz, who became an ardent critic of "weakling" Hull post-war.

Golfman76 said:
I agree. If we did use them, then the GOP wouldn't go full damage control. The war ended in 1948, which led Mahoney win by 13 points against Dewey and the Democrats gaining a supermajority in both houses of congress
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Indeed
 
Aaaaasima

Aaaaasima

OOC: List of presidents 1965-2001

37. William Miller (Republican), 1965-1969
38. Hubert Humphrey (Democratic), 1969-1973
39. Ronald Reagan (Republican), 1973-1981
40. Scoop Jackson (Democratic), 1981-1983 (died)
41. Frank Church (Democratic), 1983-1986 (resigned due to health)
42. Jimmy Carter (Democratic), 1986-1993
43. Jack Kemp (Republican), 1993-2001
 
Israel

Israel

Golfman76 said:
OOC: List of presidents 1965-2001

37. William Miller (Republican), 1965-1969
38. Hubert Humphrey (Democratic), 1969-1973
39. Ronald Reagan (Republican), 1973-1981
40. Scoop Jackson (Democratic), 1981-1983 (died)
41. Frank Church (Democratic), 1983-1986 (resigned due to health)
42. Jimmy Carter (Democratic), 1986-1993
43. Jack Kemp (Republican), 1993-2001
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OOC: Good list
 
Israel

Israel

I wonder what would have happened to Japanese-Americans if F.D.R. somehow secured a third term. Hull rejected calls to intern Japanese-Americans who renounced or did not hold Japanese citizenship, so how would Roosevelt have acted?
 
Aaaaasima

Aaaaasima

OOC: List of Presidents 2001-present

44. Dick Gephardt (Democratic), 2001-2009
45. Haley Barbour (Republican), 2009-2010 (resigned due to stroke)
46. Dave Reichert (Republican), 2010-present
 
Aaaaasima

Aaaaasima

Israel said:
I wonder what would have happened to Japanese-Americans if F.D.R. somehow secured a third term. Hull rejected calls to intern Japanese-Americans who renounced or did not hold Japanese citizenship, so how would Roosevelt have acted?
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Remember: Hull was a Southerner. He grew up looking at Blacks and Whites separated. He thought that was normal, so it was a surprise that he didn't intern them. I doubt FDR, a New Yorker, would had interned them
 
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