Germany would probably be communist and would be the "Red Menace" in an Entente victory scenario. France and Italy would just continue the way they were before the war, just with a bit extra morale and land.
DBWI: Reverse the fates of Germany and Britain
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True, but why do you think did Britain go Totalist while Italy, under Benito Mussolini, and France, under Maurice Thorez, went communist?
Because the British wanted their empire back and Mosley served as a bridge between the populists and ultranationalists. France already had plenty of leftists movements and Italy had Mussolini.
God, what Oceania did in their invasion of the then-DEI was awful... Their political ideology plus utter racism.
Mind you, it meant that the US didn’t object when the Japanese helped the Indonesians set up their own government - public opinion was very much pro-Indonesian independence, a lot of US politicians and voters were furious when the Netherlands demanded them back after all the islanders had been through under Oceanian occupation.
Yeah, the Oceanian National Republic was not a nice place to live in even for white people.
I wouldn't say that. If you were white, and followed their ideology, then it's fine. The only problem is if you were white and didn't care what other people's skin color were. Those poor German colonists in New Guinea...
Anyways, what about a "restored" United Kingdom formed by Halifax's clique around the senile President Douglas Haig? Could we have seen this "restored" UK place anti-Communism above Germanophobia and form an alliance with the Kaiserreich against the French Commune and Mussolini's Italy?
OOC: Douglas Haig being a President of a British Republic is meant to provide an analogue to Von Hindenberg.
For starters, get Woodrow Wilson instead of Champ Clark to win the Democratic nomination in 1912. While Champ Clark was unsuccessful in imposing a "single six-year term" on the Presidency, which resulted in Theodore Roosevelt's third term, he was a staunch neutralist.
True, but we can agree that a right-wing, authoritarian, and conservative regime (as opposed to the Totalists) would probably focus on anti-communism instead of revanche against Germany.
Not necessarily; the French government before WWI was revanchist, and it was right wing and conservative..
I'm not so sure about a full British-German alliance, remember that for many years British policy had been to divide the powers of Europe so that no one continental power could become too powerful. Allying with Germany against the French would basically mean accepting German dominance over Europe.