DBWI: Reagan survives assassination

IC: Everyone knows Huckabee's chances are next to nothing, the guy is way too Conservative and extreme.
 
OOC: You ruin all my fun.

IC: That guy went down hill since '04. Many DEMS are enraged about Hillary losing to him. Maybe the 3rd Parties will have a chance this year.
Many Hillary fans you mean, She did poorly in the Primaries


OOC: exactly how would Hillary enter the presidential primary if Bill is never president?
 
May I remind you that President Rumsfield is likely to be impeached soon.

So that would make Powell President. It's not as set in stone as you imply, although the evidence against Rumsfeld is pretty strong and the Democrats have commanding majorities in both houses. If Specter and his fellow swing republicans decide to forgoe party loyalty, which seems the most likely outcome, he's doomed. Unless he pulls a Nixon and resigns, with roughly the same result.

It seems American can't hold onto a leader for more then a few years these days. In the 28 years since the election of 1980, we've had Presidents Reagan, bush, Glenn, Dukakis, gore, Kerrey, Rumsfeld. No president since bush has won reelection, and none except kerrey stood for it in the general.Rummy/Powell can't really win the next one, so we get a new one next january.
 
In the 28 years since the election of 1980, we've had Presidents Reagan, bush, Glenn, Dukakis, gore, Kerrey, Rumsfeld. No president since bush has won reelection, and none except kerrey stood for it in the general.

(OOC: Okay, now we have a list let's get it organised:
Ronald Reagan '81
George Bush '81 - '89
John Glenn '89 - '93
Michael Dukakis '93 - '97
Al Gore '97 - '01
Bob Kerrey '01 - '05
Donald Rumsfeld '05 - present
All right? Okay, it's settled. And no fucking Dole!)
 
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Well the 4 presidential terms mentioned were based mainly on bad luck. Consider that Gore , did win re-election in 2000, but was killed in the terrorist attacks led by Abu-Sayyef against Washington D.C. and Boston, MA on September 11, 2001. When TWA Flight #214 from Logan Airport crashed into the White House, just consider that there was a long discussion as to the ability of the Secret Service to protect the President.....

OOC: This thread has an American presidency for the ATL that is similar to the job of Prime Minister in Italy and/or Japan...where people joke that people change leadership as often as some people change socks...
 
From way way up in the thread, before it got derailed: good point about the '82 midterms. Didn't occur to me. But yeah, I do still think Reagan wouldn't have run in '84 even if he had survived.

Incidentally, it is kinda funny from a foreign perspective how you in the USA had three successive one-term Presidents from the same political party - even if it is understandable if you look at the reasons why: Glenn having his unexpected heart attack, Dukakis being successfully challenged by Gore, then Gore of course "losing" to Rumsfeld in 2000.

Offtopic, I know, but there's another interesting WI if we're talking about presidents: what if Glenn didn't have his heart attack and did run again in '92?

(OOC: Just to clarify - Glenn isn't dead, he survived the heart attack, but he just decided not to serve another term, and Dukakis was of course Glenn's VP. And the "losing" in quotation marks was a reference to the election being rigged like in OTL.

And yes, I'm completely ignoring Mr Bondoc's above post.)
 
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