DBWI: President Trump instead of President Rubio?

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In 2016, we nearly saw the hostile takeover of the Republican Party by businessman Donald Trump, whose divide campaign was making huge waves amongst disgruntled Americans. However, cooler heads prevailed when Marco Rubio was able to triumph over Trump in the primaries, and he and Nikki Haley were able to defeat Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine in the general election.

Overall, the Rubio presidency has been pretty good. The economy is booming, GDP growth has been great, unemployment has been going down, and Republicans actually made gains in the past midterms. Let’s also not forget the appointments of Neil Gorsuch and Viet Dinh (Rubio’s first Attorney General) to the Supreme Court.

But this does beg the question: what might America have been like under the leadership (that might be too strong of a word) of a President Donald Trump?
 
Honestly, we probably wouldnt have all the troops over in Venezuela. Say what you will about trump but at least in the campaign he seemed reluctant to send troops overseas
 
Well, that's a good question, but before I go, I really should point out that contrary to some fairly off-the-wall claims otherwise. the economy isn't actually "booming" at all(in fact, it hasn't since the 1990s, though I digress); in fact, we've actually been stagnating recently, and it's likely only going to get worse for a while.

As for Trump-as much as some of us might have hoped otherwise-he mainly only fell through because of that big scandal that blew up back at the end of February '16, and even then, he came rather close to pulling it off-whether or not he would still win the general election after winning the primaries ITTL really depends on how things develop afterwards.....though I'd argue that a lot more would have to go right for him versus Rubio IOTL(maybe the Weiner letter comes out in late October instead of mid November? Wouldn't have made much of a difference for Rubio, though, so I dunno if Trump would fare any better). And Trump probably couldn't win Nevada in particular, so that'd make his path a good bit harder than Rubio's.

Though if Trump had won the primary and the general.....there's a damn good chance we'd already be in a fairly significant recession, for one. And probably fighting at least one war somewhere in the world well before December of 2018. But on the other hand, though.....even Rubio couldn't hold on to the House even after gaining two seats net in the Senate(winning MO, FL, ND, and IN, despite losing AZ and NV + damn near losing TX and TN.), so I really doubt Trump would even be able to keep the Senate unless he basically got lucky.

Honestly, we probably wouldnt have all the troops over in Venezuela. Say what you will about trump but at least in the campaign he seemed reluctant to send troops overseas

That may depend on whether or not the Guanare Incident still happens or not-prior to that, Rubio was hesitant to do much of anything, primarily because SecDef Jim Mattis thought it was a really, really bad idea up until then.
 
Well, that's a good question, but before I go, I really should point out that contrary to some fairly off-the-wall claims otherwise. the economy isn't actually "booming" at all(in fact, it hasn't since the 1990s, though I digress); in fact, we've actually been stagnating recently, and it's likely only going to get worse for a while.

As for Trump-as much as some of us might have hoped otherwise-he mainly only fell through because of that big scandal that blew up back at the end of February '16, and even then, he came rather close to pulling it off-whether or not he would still win the general election after winning the primaries ITTL really depends on how things develop afterwards.....though I'd argue that a lot more would have to go right for him versus Rubio IOTL(maybe the Weiner letter comes out in late October instead of mid November? Wouldn't have made much of a difference for Rubio, though, so I dunno if Trump would fare any better). And Trump probably couldn't win Nevada in particular, so that'd make his path a good bit harder than Rubio's.

Though if Trump had won the primary and the general.....there's a damn good chance we'd already be in a fairly significant recession, for one. And probably fighting at least one war somewhere in the world well before December of 2018. But on the other hand, though.....even Rubio couldn't hold on to the House even after gaining two seats net in the Senate(winning MO, FL, ND, and IN, despite losing AZ and NV + damn near losing TX and TN.), so I really doubt Trump would even be able to keep the Senate unless he basically got lucky.



That may depend on whether or not the Guanare Incident still happens or not-prior to that, Rubio was hesitant to do much of anything, primarily because SecDef Jim Mattis thought it was a really, really bad idea up until then.

Well, I mean, the GDP growth for the last quarter was 3.3%, surpassing many economists expectation by a full percentage point. Plus, the Dow Jones is about to crack 30,000, so that’s gotta count for something, right?

When it comes to the House, Rubio May not have been able to hold it, but at least they only lost enough seats to mitigate their losses to where they are only down by 8 seats. I suspect under a Trump presidency, he would’ve pissed off enough people where Republicans would’ve lost close to 40 or something like that.

With the Senate, don’t forget Republican upsets in Michigan and New Jersey. (OOC: I feel that Bob Hugin could pull off an upset without the clout of Trukp over the race. After all, Menendez’s approval in NJ was in the trash, and Rubio campaigning with Hugin might’ve energized voters. John James came pretty close OTL with Trump, and I feel Rubio could help James get over the top to upset Stabenow) That put their advantage to 57 seats to the Democrats’ 43. It was just an overall terrible Senate map for Democrats to overcome. I honestly can’t see Trump influencing the races to a point where we see Republicans making such gains.

The whole Venezuela situation is a clusterfuck and a half. Like you said, Mattis didn’t authorize military intervention until the Guanare incident. After that, multiple countries sent in troops to help the Venezuelan people.
 
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