DBWI: President Obama To Meet With Ottoman Emperor Osman V

President Barack Obama of the United States of America is due to meet with Ottoman Emperor Osman V and Ottoman Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan today to discuss the War On Terror and the Ottoman Empire's troops in Afghanistan and Iraq. How do you feel about this?
 
OOC: All these complaints about butterflies make it very tempting to start a DBWI thread posted in an imaginary language, talk about made-up nations and placenames and claim a PoD of four centuries ago.

IC: Ottoman relations with Persia have already been strained over Ottoman involvement in the War on Terror, and the Persians have been supporting radical clerics in Arabia.
 

Faraday Cage

We wouldn't be in this mess, targeted by extremists, if it weren't for our alliance with the Turks to check the Eurasian Synarchy.


((ooc: heat-seeking laser-guided precision butterflies))
 

wormyguy

Banned
Shame on Obama for going along with this ridiculous parody. The "Mosul" Empire is nothing but another extension of Russian tyranny, and has been since 1917. The free nations of the world ought to take a strong stance against Russia and demand the self-determination of the Middle Eastern people and the return of "Tsargrad Oblast" to its inhabitants. No more recognition of puppets, the "Sunshine Policy" has done too much damage already!

OOC: Couldn't resist.
 

Keenir

Banned
IC: Ottoman relations with Persia have already been strained over Ottoman involvement in the War on Terror, and the Persians have been supporting radical clerics in Arabia.

Oh, like things would be better if Sunni extremists held the two most holy sites in Dar-al-Islam? riiiight.

Though this news release will in all likelihood play into the hands of those folks at FoxyNews, the whole "Obama is secret muslim".
(Obama is a Muslim like the current Ottoman Emperor is Scottish - both of them were awarded the Order of the Garter by the Queen Mum of the UK)
 

Anaxagoras

Banned
OOC: I am assuming that a butterfly shield has been erected.

IC: The big question for me is whether the Sultan, in his capacity as the Caliph, will declare a jihad against Al Qaeda. His failure to do so after the 9/11 attacks was, IIRC, a major blow to American-Ottoman relations.
 

Keenir

Banned
IC: The big question for me is whether the Sultan, in his capacity as the Caliph, will declare a jihad against Al Qaeda. His failure to do so after the 9/11 attacks was, IIRC, a major blow to American-Ottoman relations.

The sad thing is that, legally, the Sultan hasn't been able to call for a jihad since 1925 - part of the whole "religious reform" everyone praised him for, back then.

(yeah, I know he declared jihad in 1927, but he paid a political price for that slip)
 
The sad thing is that, legally, the Sultan hasn't been able to call for a jihad since 1925 - part of the whole "religious reform" everyone praised him for, back then.

(yeah, I know he declared jihad in 1927, but he paid a political price for that slip)
Well considering he proclaimed Jihad in 1914 on us.... though he seems kind of old to be doing anything that strenuous.

OOC: The monarchy could reinstated constitutionally right? So it could have happened in 2009 or something.
 

Keenir

Banned
Well considering he proclaimed Jihad in 1914 on us.... though he seems kind of old to be doing anything that strenuous.

I was referring to his entire family.


OOC: it's possible that it could be more recent a reinstating - but show me a Turkish President who'd commit the political suicide of giving the power to declare jihad to any Ottoman lord. that and the reinstatement would be the Armenian lobbies' wet dream.
 
Well the US is the largest provider of Ottoman arms and munitions, hell what almost 80% of their armored and mechanized untis are equiped with American designed or built armored vehicles, right? The US and the Ottomans have a close military relationship, rocky most of the time but we need to be nice to them they are a HUGE market for American arms. Sure they aren't to happy with US getting buddy buddy with their European neighbors in the Balkans but hey its all part of the great game right?
 
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