DBWI: Poland et al never become SSRs of the Soviet Union

Remember when Soviet Union President Mikhail Gorbachev announced his resignation in December 1991 and with it the end of the USSR?

As soon as he left office, the Polish, Prussian, Serbian, Bosnian, Bulgarian, Crimean, Armenian, Estonian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Moldavian, Byelorussian, Azerbaijani, Turkmen, Abkhazian, Manchurian, Mongolian, Kurile, Uzbek, Kazakh, Kurdish, and Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republics declared their independence and immediately received worldwide diplomatic recognition.

Only the Siberian and Chechen SSR's elected to stay with Russia. Manchuria elected to join China.

If these countries were never conquered an incorporated into the USSR after World War II by Joseph Stalin and his successor Lazar Kaganovich, would they have become sovereign Communist nations like Hungary, Romania, Albania and Czechoslovakia?
 
Certainly the accusations of Pope John XXIV (OOC: OTL's Pope John Paul II) being a "Soviet thug" would have certainly been muted in 1979. For many the 1980s, were filled with anti-Catholic sentiment, based on the notion that the Pope would be beholden to the Soviet leadership.

Also, there certainly would have been a larger worldwide population of Jewish people. The mass graves and "internment camps" that were uncovered in 1964, serve notice that Communism is a vile and inhumane system....
 
If the Prussians managed to escape Russia, they'd have tried to join the German Democratic Republic. And if Poland broke free, through violence or otherwise, they couldn't have remained free for long. Stalin had always hated the Poles, and Kaganovich was just Stalin's carbon copy. Stalin had always wanted to expand the USSR to the Rhine. He wouldn't have tolerated even a puppet state to his west.
 
One POD that has been proposed is "What if FDR had not gone with a 'two-front war' strategy against the Axis rather than the 'Japan First' policy in 1941?" Considering the relationship between PM Winston Churchill and FDR, there is a good possibility that such a strategy could have led to a greater role in Europe before 1946...

Then again, would Stalin have allowed American and British troops in Western and Central Europe (c.1942)?
 
The Great Central European War Zone perhaps could be averted. The millions of refugees who fled after the whole CE started to burn into flames in numerous ethnic conflicts from Adriatic to Crimea would not swarm Western European cities.
And that disgusting show in tv filming the exploits of guerillas wouldn't take place.

(btw also see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xavras_Wyżryn)
 
The Great Central European War Zone perhaps could be averted. The millions of refugees who fled after the whole CE started to burn into flames in numerous ethnic conflicts from Adriatic to Crimea would not swarm Western European cities.
And that disgusting show in tv filming the exploits of guerillas wouldn't take place.

(btw also see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xavras_Wyżryn)
While we may disagree with Anderson Cooper's documentary that covered the activities of the Polish guerillas in Gdansk, Warsaw, and Wroclaw, it served to make the American public aware of the atrocities being committed in the region in 1996. Just remember that Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch had been talking about the atrocities since 1992, but had received little mainstream press coverage...
 
OOC.

First why the fuck would Soviets be committing genocide against Jews. Its not like "kill Jews" is no1 on every evil power's to do list.

Second, you can never get all those countries in USSR. If they tried anything like that in '45. they would at least face a number of insurrections. And most likely a open war with Allies , at least in '46. or '47. And if you nuke half a dozen to dozen Soviet cities per year from '46. onward there is zero chance of Joe 1 in '49.


Any plausible "bigger than OTL USSR" has to be done with WWI and Revolution related PODs. Keep Finland and win and keep Poland. Maybe parts of Romania. And that is pretty much it.
 
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