DBWI: Pearl Harbour Bombed!

Reports are coming in of an air raid on Royal Naval and Royal Air Force facilities at Pearl Harbour, Hawaii by elements of the Imperial Japanese Navy.

Japanese forces are also attacking American holdings in the Phillippines, French Indo China and the Dutch East Indies. An attack on Singapore is believed imminent.
 
The odd thing is that, except for the clumsiness of American negotiators at the peace talks ending the brief European-American War of 1910, there is no way we British would even be involved in the current Pacific War - and in a de facto alliance with the USA, no less. I guess First Counsul Roosevelt was so elated by the Great White Fleet's lightning conquests of the Phillipines and Singapore and the basing concessions forced on the timid French and Dutch colonial authorities, he felt magnanimous enough to allow Britain to retain its last-minute conquest of Hawaii - the only halfway effective offensive mounted by the European Alliance in the whole damn fiasco.

And what has that given us? 3600 dead Royal Navy sailors and six battleships sunk by the Japanese!! As far as I am concerned, we should just as well let the Japs have Hawaii and watch while they and the equally arrogant Americans go at it. As for the Dominions, they can take care of themselves.
 
The odd thing is that, except for the clumsiness of American negotiators at the peace talks ending the brief European-American War of 1910, there is no way we British would even be involved in the current Pacific War - and in a de facto alliance with the USA, no less. I guess First Counsul Roosevelt was so elated by the Great White Fleet's lightning conquests of the Phillipines and Singapore and the basing concessions forced on the timid French and Dutch colonial authorities, he felt magnanimous enough to allow Britain to retain its last-minute conquest of Hawaii - the only halfway effective offensive mounted by the European Alliance in the whole damn fiasco.

And what has that given us? 3600 dead Royal Navy sailors and six battleships sunk by the Japanese!! As far as I am concerned, we should just as well let the Japs have Hawaii and watch while they and the equally arrogant Americans go at it. As for the Dominions, they can take care of themselves.

((I knew this would happen. Every time someone tries a DBWI the very first post will muck it up with some totally illogical, off the wall idea like Chinese empires in the Balkans or Vinland in the 20th century. Why can no one ever think these things through before posting them?

Euro-American Wars? First Consul Roosevelt? Are these things in any way likely in the 20th century?))
 
OOC: OK then, ignore Zoomar's post. ;)

IC: I'm on King George VI right now, which got strafed by the Japanese and took two bomb hits, but we got out of the harbor. Three other RN battleships and three carriers have regrouped, and we're getting things back running again.

Start running, Jap suckers. We're coming for your a**es.
 
Christ......My old man's Cheering over the news, he still thinks of himself as a Citizen of Japan.

this won't bode well, for the me........
 
While this is a particularly devastating event and a good portion of the Pacific Fleet has been crippled HM Government is working with the Hawaiian Government to get the situation under control. The shipyards, dry docks and oil farms have not been touched.

The main units of the Royal Hawaiian Navy are still intact and have been withcalled from their exercises down in Tonga, tho its likely they may be moved to Fiji in order to support the Royal Australasian Navy.

However, the six battleships lost, while tragic, where not the first line of battleships that the navy has. HMS Resolution and her sistership HMS Resistance, with their 8x15in were the core of the fleet. The four other ships were members of the Iron Duke and King George V classes and haven't been modernized since just after the Great War.

The Pacific Battlecruiser Squadron in Esquimaux, British Columbia, is still in full strength, tho they may be dispatched to Hawaii when its deemed safe. The Royal Canadian Navy has been placed on alert, but its unlikely that the Japanese will attack further east that Hawaii.

It would have been far worse if any members of the giant St. George, Nelson, Queen Victoria class battleships - with their 9-18in guns, were lost, but those very infrequently are dispatched east of Suez.

IIRC the HMAS Dominion, HMAS Victoria, HMAS New South Wales, with their 9-16in guns, are currently the largest battleships of the British Empire in the Pacific. The Royal Hawaiian Navy only has their old battleships, HMS King Kalakaua and Queen Liliuokalani, with their 10-15in guns - tho they do possess the aircraft carriers Mauna Kea, Mauna Loa and Iolani which may serve as the new core for any further fleet actions.
 
((I knew this would happen. Every time someone tries a DBWI the very first post will muck it up with some totally illogical, off the wall idea like Chinese empires in the Balkans or Vinland in the 20th century. Why can no one ever think these things through before posting them?

Euro-American Wars? First Consul Roosevelt? Are these things in any way likely in the 20th century?))

Lemme see...unless I misunderstood your use of commas, you are talking about a world in which Britain has a base in Hawaii while the US has holdings in the Philippines, French Indochina and the Dutch East Indies. To get that situation something very different from our OTL has got to have happened. I know the "First Counsel Roosevelt" is ridiculous, but a victorious war by the US against a coalition of European nations is not an unrealistic way to get such a topsy-turvey situation in the Pacific.
 
Lemme see...unless I misunderstood your use of commas, you are talking about a world in which Britain has a base in Hawaii while the US has holdings in the Philippines, French Indochina and the Dutch East Indies. To get that situation something very different from our OTL has got to have happened. I know the "First Counsel Roosevelt" is ridiculous, but a victorious war by the US against a coalition of European nations is not an unrealistic way to get such a topsy-turvey situation in the Pacific.

OOC: I'm fairly certian he ment The Japanese are attacking American's Holdings in the Philippines, and ALSO attacking French Indochina, as well as the Dutch East Indies.
It wasn;t that hard to mis interpert.

IC: well...My father has been taken for.... 'Questioning'.
I don't like It, what the hell can I do to show them I'm a loyal Citizen?
 
OOC: I'm fairly certian he ment The Japanese are attacking American's Holdings in the Philippines, and ALSO attacking French Indochina, as well as the Dutch East Indies.
It wasn;t that hard to mis interpert.

IC: well...My father has been taken for.... 'Questioning'.
I don't like It, what the hell can I do to show them I'm a loyal Citizen?

You damn Japs! Nothing but a plague on the human race. You ain't never gonna be a loyal citizen -- niggers are better.

OOC: That, people, is an in-character response.
 
I don't understand you guys at all! Why are you referring to the Sandwich islands as Hawaii??? The insistence of a few locals who tried to take control RIGHT BEFORE the UK emerged, and then have the gall to claim that they are the rightful leaders of the islands? Hogwash.

In all likelihood, this is the whirlwind we get for ignoring Wang Jingwei's pleas for help from the West and forcing him to cut a deal with Japan that leaves China as just a puppet. Now the Japanese are really out to take over everything, and it certainly doesn't help that Communist Germany and Hungary are close to getting knocked out by Grey Russia.

Maybe the United States should have intervened in WW1, instead of letting President William Jennings Bryan blue law the United States into civil disorder and leading to the nineteenth amendment which firmly declared religion incompatible with government.

You get what you pay for.
 
You damn Japs! Nothing but a plague on the human race. You ain't never gonna be a loyal citizen -- niggers are better.

OOC: That, people, is an in-character response.

If the best you can do, is scream insults at a completely innocent man, then you sir, will never be any better than those madmen in Russia.
 
OOC: Are the Philippians American here, or is that part of the ignore post?

IC (assuming the US is not in the 'ppeans or any other major Pac holdings): Best of luck, Brits! Those Japs are a wily bunch! Frankly I'm more than glad to be over here in the New World and isolated from such insanity. We dodged a bullet on the Great War and I'm glad we're dodging this one.

IC (assuming we are): Great! You damned Euros dragged us into your damned wars again! That's what we get for taking up the burden of getting the Flips in order, I guess.
 
Lemme see...unless I misunderstood your use of commas, you are talking about a world in which Britain has a base in Hawaii while the US has holdings in the Philippines, French Indochina and the Dutch East Indies. To get that situation something very different from our OTL has got to have happened. I know the "First Counsel Roosevelt" is ridiculous, but a victorious war by the US against a coalition of European nations is not an unrealistic way to get such a topsy-turvey situation in the Pacific.

OOC: I'm fairly certian he ment The Japanese are attacking American's Holdings in the Philippines, and ALSO attacking French Indochina, as well as the Dutch East Indies.
It wasn;t that hard to mis interpert.

Fenrir is correct. America has holdings in the Philippines as per OTL, French Indo-China is French as per OTL and the Dutch East Indies are Dutch as per OTL. Singapore is British. I was going for a slightly squewed history not a totally warped one.
 
Fenrir is correct. America has holdings in the Philippines as per OTL, French Indo-China is French as per OTL and the Dutch East Indies are Dutch as per OTL. Singapore is British. I was going for a slightly squewed history not a totally warped one.

I apologize. Since you only referred to US "holdings" followed by the Phillipines and the other places, I thought you were after a more skewed TL in which the US somehow had bases or other "holdings" throughout the Pacific while somehow Hawaii is home to the Royal Navy. Honest mistake.
 
Damned yellow imperialists! I heard rumors they led a bombing raid on San Francisco and the American fleet there as well. However, as of now, those are still rumors I guess.
 
Damned yellow imperialists! I heard rumors they led a bombing raid on San Francisco and the American fleet there as well. However, as of now, those are still rumors I guess.

OK, let's try this again.

I believe you are quite misinformed. There is virtually no way a Japanese carrier force could approach close enough to the US mainland to launch an airstrike without being detected by US airships. As I am sure you know, all 10 ZRCV's have been maintaining regular patrols from the Aleutians to the Sandwich Islands ever since war between Britain and Japan became inevitable after the bombing of Shanghai. Besides, remember last year when the British offered us a gazillion bucks for the Panama Canal Zone? Although we said no, I'm sure they still want it, and now with a war on they may try to take it. I think we need to be more worried about a British invasion there than the Japs bombing Berkeley.

As a true-blue American, I think it is silly for us to become involved in this war between the Europeans and the Japanese. So the Japs take over the Phillipines? Big deal. We don't need it. Never have. I don't see this as worth us fighting for and thankfully, President Lindberg and the Republican Congress are unlikely to declare war as long as the Japs keep to their side of the Pacific. As you know, when we meekly accepted the British takeover of Hawaii in 1880, we just about gave up any pretentions of being a major player in the Pacific. I will never understand why we even bothered with the Phillipines in the Spanish War when all we wanted was Cuba. I say let the Japs have it.

And speaking of "Hawaii" this so called puppet "kingdom" the Brits have there is a complete joke. Everyone knows all the dreadnoughts and aircraft carriers those polynesian pipsqueaks supposedly have are crewed, to a man, by Jolly Jack Tars from Portsmouth and Plymouth who answer only to King Edward himself! That whole "country" and its fake "navy" only exist to let the British pretend they are abiding by the terms of the Vancouver Disarmament Conference, when if fact they have doubled their naval presence in the Pacific illegally over the past 5 years. Don't get me started on Perfidious Albion. They deserve everything the Japs can throw at them!
 
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And speaking of "Hawaii" this so called puppet "kingdom" the Brits have there is a complete joke. Everyone knows all the dreadnoughts and aircraft carriers those polynesian pipsqueaks supposedly have are crewed, to a man, by Jolly Jack Tars from Portsmouth and Plymouth who answer only to King Edward himself! That whole "country" and its fake "navy" only exist to let the British pretend they are abiding by the terms of the Vancouver Disarmament Conference, when if fact they have doubled their naval presence in the Pacific illegally over the past 5 years. Don't get me started on Perfidious Albion. They deserve everything the Japs can throw at them!

as a Citzen of the British Empire and the Kingdom of Hawaii, I find this Incredibly Offensive.

As for me, while all of you just sit around whining about how this is Terrible, how we Deserve it, and such, I intend to show that I am a loyal citizen, and Join the Royal army.
good day.
 
OOC: Ah yes, and a TL which presumes the Net was around in the 1940s. I never got these DBWIs set in periods of time where the concept of an internet discussion thread, or anything which might enable people from disparate parts of of the world to talk to each other, were not even remotely thought of. Just a bit of fun I suppose, but otherwise ASB?
 
I'm back, on King George VI. Us and South African cruiser Highveld took down two Japanese cruisers and a destroyer that were straggling behind their fleet, without taking much more than a scratch.

Hood and Australia are leading a force to stop the Japanese in the Phillippines, and the RN has been mobilized to move as much as possible that way. The US Navy might now want to get into this, before the Japanese come landing in California.
 
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