DBWI: Operation Barbarossa failed?

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So as we all know, Operation Barbarossa, the Ottoman conquest of Russia, named after Barbarossa Hayreddin Pasha, was one of the most pivotal moments of the 20th century, with the Soviet Union capitulated by the anti-communist forces of the Ottoman Sultan.

What if that invasion had failed? What if the Ottomans had gotten bogged down somewhere in southern Russia, or even at the gates of Moscow?
 

Deleted member 97083

Assuming that the Ottomans can inflict that kind of victory against Russia is too much, though.
OOC: I never said that the Ottomans salted the earth and burnt Russia to the ground. They might have just replaced the government with a restored Russian Empire. Also, they could have allies such as Finland or Poland.
 
OOC: Me too see this ASB. Ottomans can't conquer Russia and enforce puppet government. Not even with some minor allies. Germany perhaps but not Ottomans.
 

Thomas1195

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OOC: Is it though? Consider the growth Japan or Russia had from 1900-1941.
The Japanese were far more reformist in terms of education and industrial policy. And the process began well before 1900.

Besides, Japan's location was safer. And Japan's population was much bigger.
 
OOC: Me too see this ASB. Ottomans can't conquer Russia and enforce puppet government. Not even with some minor allies. Germany perhaps but not Ottomans.

(Well, there is one possibility I can see: that the Soviet Union only emerged after a much, much bloodier and longer Russian Civil War. A sufficent drop in the Russian population combined with poverty/ near total lack of industrialization would allow for such a situation)
 
(Well, there is one possibility I can see: that the Soviet Union only emerged after a much, much bloodier and longer Russian Civil War. A sufficent drop in the Russian population combined with poverty/ near total lack of industrialization would allow for such a situation)

But still, why Ottomans would invade Russia?
 

Thomas1195

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(Well, there is one possibility I can see: that the Soviet Union only emerged after a much, much bloodier and longer Russian Civil War. A sufficent drop in the Russian population combined with poverty/ near total lack of industrialization would allow for such a situation)
Well, Russian population is unlikely to drop to 30 million or lower.
 
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