DBWI: Not Soviet-European War?

There will be a possibility that the Soviet Union could become a Superpower. The war took a momumental toll on the Russians since the invasion created a unlikely British, German, French, Japanese, and Italian alliance against the Soviet Union. which destroyed a lot of infastructure in the Soviet Union with the sucessful Operation Knight that reached all the way to Moscow and the bombing raids.
 

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Hmm..... well Japan might not have suffered a nuclear attack on Tokyo, for one, since it is unlikely they would be damn foolish enough, even by their standards, to take on the US while a coherent USSR could strike into Manchuria while their back was turned. We may also see the Soviets fund communist independance movements in Africa, rather then the development of Commonwealth systems as in OTL.... which is IMO bad for Africa in the long run.

The US may play a bigger role in world affairs...after all, with the Communists continuing to exist as a threat to American trade, their would be a neccesity to protect American trade interests.... perhaps the US would be a military, not just economic and political superpower.
 
Well, I think that Poland might have been in real trouble--Germany might have actually had some kind of army and there could have been some real trouble there.

1932 was a colossal mistake, and hard to understate. We would not have the Second Armenian Genocide with Turkish troops moving into the Caucusaus. There might not be a free Ukraine and free Belorussia. Last of all, I know this one sounds unbelievable, but I think Japan might have gone down by 1946. We know that the Japanese fought to the last man, all across the pacific. And there is lots of heroism over their beachhead in San Francisco with the Kwangtung Army--the first time the USA has been invaded since 1814. It would not have been an eight year war against Japan in the pacific.
 
Well, I think that Poland might have been in real trouble--Germany might have actually had some kind of army and there could have been some real trouble there.

1932 was a colossal mistake, and hard to understate. We would not have the Second Armenian Genocide with Turkish troops moving into the Caucusaus. There might not be a free Ukraine and free Belorussia. Last of all, I know this one sounds unbelievable, but I think Japan might have gone down by 1946. We know that the Japanese fought to the last man, all across the pacific. And there is lots of heroism over their beachhead in San Francisco with the Kwangtung Army--the first time the USA has been invaded since 1814. It would not have been an eight year war against Japan in the pacific.

ooc: :confused:? How could the Pacific War, which was a sideshow for the US in WW2 with the Europe-first policy, go almost twice as long with the entire US against Japan, which never had the capability to invade Hawaii, let alone the US?


IC: It's not really that the Japanese "invaded" the US, as much as tried a (disastrous) raid in a daringly stupid wave of attempted strikes across the West Coast and Panama, most of which sunk in the crossing. Clearly delusions of competence abounded the Japanese general staff officer who thought that a several hundred men would be enough to seriously damage any major US city, let alone Panama (one of the most heavily defended spots in the Western Hemisphere, after Pearl Harbor).


Also, I find it amusing that people claim that the US is not involved in the world. It's much more accurate to say that the US isn't involved in western Eurasia and Africa; the US is the leading character in the Americas, and a very major presence in East Asia. That's nothing to sneeze at.
 
Has anyone read the book A Republic, Not Empire (2006) by Pat Buchanan? Apparently the former Secretary of State claims that it was Leon Trotsky, in a deal made with the Bilderberg and Rothschild families as early as 1924, who sold out the Russian people. He claims that Trotsky is the "modern Judas Iscariot" of his people. As proof, he points to Trotsky's death in 1940 in Mexico, saying, "How else could a pissant Jew from Russia afford a cabana in Mexico, unless he was the one who sold out his people..."

I certainly don't believe this anti-Semitic crap, but apparently Mayor Vladimir Zhirinovsky of St. Petersburg is apparently using the book as part of his rallies since 2006, in his bid to seize the Russian presidency in 2008....
 
ooc: :confused:? How could the Pacific War, which was a sideshow for the US in WW2 with the Europe-first policy, go almost twice as long with the entire US against Japan, which never had the capability to invade Hawaii, let alone the US?


IC: It's not really that the Japanese "invaded" the US, as much as tried a (disastrous) raid in a daringly stupid wave of attempted strikes across the West Coast and Panama, most of which sunk in the crossing. Clearly delusions of competence abounded the Japanese general staff officer who thought that a several hundred men would be enough to seriously damage any major US city, let alone Panama (one of the most heavily defended spots in the Western Hemisphere, after Pearl Harbor).


Also, I find it amusing that people claim that the US is not involved in the world. It's much more accurate to say that the US isn't involved in western Eurasia and Africa; the US is the leading character in the Americas, and a very major presence in East Asia. That's nothing to sneeze at.

This is correct, except that actually storming Japan itself with those Kwangtung divisions might well take until 1948--and yes, talk about Shoestring operations...
 
This is correct, except that actually storming Japan itself with those Kwangtung divisions might well take until 1948--and yes, talk about Shoestring operations...
In regards to the Japanese-American War a.k.a. "the War of the Pacific", I think the biggest threat was from the release of the "balloon bombs" by Unit 731, that caused the spread of "Japanese influenza" from 1943-1946. Even today, in places like China, India, Philippines, Indonesia, Vietnam, et al. most people are still demanding reparations and a formal apology. After 80 million deaths, I can't blame them...
 
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