DBWI: No World War III!

[Blue Max]

OOC: I'm guessing that Germany no longer exists?

OOC:
Germany might, 50 years later, be a few colonies of Germans abroad that decided to return home. The original Germans are dead, or at best, they fled west as the Soviet main strike wrecked everything.

I also think Western Europe would be largely trashed by Soviet Bombers, IRBMs and shorter range weapons. The Soviets probably launched first.

 

[Richter von Manthofen]

OOC: I'm guessing that Germany no longer exists?

OOC - its now part of Western Europe - and managed to survive - according to my former post -

 

[Richter von Manthofen]

OOC:
Germany might, 50 years later, be a few colonies of Germans abroad that decided to return home. The original Germans are dead, or at best, they fled west as the Soviet main strike wrecked everything.

I also think Western Europe would be largely trashed by Soviet Bombers, IRBMs and shorter range weapons. The Soviets probably launched first.

Nope read my earlier post Western Europe survived with minor damage

 

[Blue Max]

Nope read my earlier post Western Europe survived with minor damage

OOC:
Your post came AFTER my post, so you can revise yours to fit. Also, how would you like to explain why the Soviet Union decided NOT TO ATTACK nuclear armed nations nearest to itself?

IC: We have are share of old mental patients as well.

 

[Richter von Manthofen]

OOC:
Your post came AFTER my post, so you can revise yours to fit. Also, how would you like to explain why the Soviet Union decided NOT TO ATTACK nuclear armed nations nearest to itself?

IC: We have are share of old mental patients as well.

OOC - not contradicting - you wrotte of near collapse of WE (which happened, but as it was only near , we eventually recovered. The Great European Forest stretches from Northern Norway throught Finland Poland the Balticsand the old SU.

 

[Braganza]

Hm, with still some sort of global governance we wouldn't have the post-WWIII conflicts. No Andean Fascism, no War of Paraná*, no Neo-Absolutism in Africa or ethnical cleasing against whites. No conflict between caliphates, kingdoms and secular republics in the Islamic world. No tensions between India and Australia for the control of the Indian Sea and post-Indonesian republics, that may spark another War...
I guess the world would have been a happier place.

* War between Brazil and Argentina for the control of the Paraná Basin.

 

[Bughuntertf]

I've been just wiling away the hours in my tiny underground bunker...

Reading old history and fantasy books, of better times and different worlds, one meal a day, a sip of water every two hours, five hours to bang at the metal walls and hope it'll break so I can get out. A tree grew over the entrance to my bunker. So I'm stuck here! The only paper I have is my books. AAAAGGHHH! I want to see the outside world!

 

[glenn67]

Switzerland would probably not be an economic power if not for World War III.

There probably would not be an influx of immigration from France, Germany, Italy and Austria.

 

[Roger II]

Apparently a lot of the problems in the Missile Crisis were caused by the fact that everything got routed through the telegraph office, and several of the more critical communication failures involved messengers getting stuck in traffic. So a more direct link between the White House and Kremlin might help-I know there was talk in the months before Atomic Tuesday of installing a direct phone line; maybe a smaller but less critical scare gets that fasttracked? But even hiring a bicycle messenger instead of relying on cars would probably have avoided several communication problems.

 

[Blue Max]

OOC - not contradicting - you wrotte of near collapse of WE (which happened, but as it was only near , we eventually recovered. The Great European Forest stretches from Northern Norway throught Finland Poland the Balticsand the old SU.

OOC: I can work along those lines, although bear in mind "recovery" is probably a very grim business and the damage was definitely not minor. Note also that Germany and Czechia were probably also incinerated (The Czechs are on the Red Team; the Germans are directly in the line of all kinds of tactical nuclear weapons from both sides; Hungary and Yugoslavia might be largely spared.

No people on Earth like to travel the globe like Germans though, so there probably was enough people to begin some sort of "Heimland" movement.

IC: I've spent a lot of time talking about things in the states.

The sky is blue, but I hear that with so many cities gone and the resurgence of forests over much of Europe, the world has grown perhaps 2 degrees colder.

But let's talk about a different character: California Governor Leo Ryan, a heroic figure in our state's history. A State Assemblyman on Atomic Tuesday, Ryan deliberately endured the experiences of rationing quotas, the "hunger cells" that national guardsmen had used in a desperate attempt to maintain order, and lived to report the facts.

Leo Ryan directly contributed to the nature and the fairness of the Department of National Reconstruction, culminating in a symbolic repair of San Francisco's Golden Gate Bridge. It is because of Governor Ryan that the people of California have three meals a day, at least a "Stonebox" residence and many areas now have reliable power and water.

Where are you all from, and what is your life experience?

 

[Ascendant Warrior]

I really can't imagine it myself...Though I will say that the whole human race would probably be a bunch of ungratefull pricks who don't know what they got!


Before my mother left this world(heart Failure when I was 15), she hammered in being gratefull for what you had and enjoying life...it's especially true because she was about 6 or 7 when the bombs fell.

Though the idea of Big Cities scares me though, the thought of so many people you don't know being so close to you...*Shivers*


I'm living in a small town in one of the Radiation-Safe Zones*, and the only people within walkin' distance of me are friends or family...that's how I like it...thank you very much.


*-these zones wouldn't necessarily be Radiation Free, just safe for human habitation.

 

[Dirk_Pitt]

I really can't imagine it myself...Though I will say that the whole human race would probably be a bunch of ungratefull pricks who don't know what they got!


Before my mother left this world(heart Failure when I was 15), she hammered in being gratefull for what you had and enjoying life...it's especially true because she was about 6 or 7 when the bombs fell.

Though the idea of Big Cities scares me though, the thought of so many people you don't know being so close to you...*Shivers*


I'm living in a small town in one of the Radiation-Safe Zones*, and the only people within walkin' distance of me are friends or family...that's how I like it...thank you very much.


*-these zones wouldn't necessarily be Radiation Free, just safe for human habitation.

Yeah, I know what you mean! People back before Atomic Tuesday were so stupid! Living in big cities. It's like having a massive target on your back!

 

[NoOneFamous]

This whole thing could have been avoided if US troops hadn't invaded Cuba.

 

[Blue Max]

This whole thing could have been avoided if US troops hadn't invaded Cuba.

We couldn't have ignored Cuba any more than the Soviets could avoid Hungary--its central to our sphere of influence.

But this is more than insensitive, it's trying to blame the United States for the entire conflict. The Soviets started the tension by reneging on a promise to hold democratic elections in Eastern Europe; then they decide to try to cheat the United States out of West Berlin. They agree to support the Kim family in Korea, even if it means war.

Finally, they decided to place their nuclear weapons in Cuba. The Soviets are insane warmongers who were willing to make a deal with HITLER for petty gain. They LAUNCHED FIRST on Atomic Tuesday, they decided this war would be nuclear--and they aimed for our cities!

We regret Cuba because we regret the Soviet Union's decision to launch. But if the Soviets were going to launch sooner or later, what difference does it make*? We fought a war they decided to start by a means they decided to choose for stakes we both understood.

BM Note:
*The fact that the USA has a major advantage in nuclear weapons and launch vehicles isn't known in the present day. Most records were destroyed in the attacks and even to this day much of the Great European Forest is uncharted.

 

[Dathi THorfinnsson]

If there werent any wwiii, I'd probably still be alive....

 

[LNSS]

It must suck to live in one of the hit countries.

Here in Mexico we're doing comparatively fine. The Non-Aligned Movement sounds like a genius idea in retrospect, doesn't it?

Plus with all the American and Canadian colonies over here, and their contribution to all fields, we are able to mantain hemispheric hegemony.

 

[Craig_Truglia]

I wonder if Crystal Pepsi still would be the world's most popular soda, or if that would have been butterflied away without WW3. I mean, how couldn't it be, it tastes so damn good.

 

[TheYoungPretender]

I'm assuming that the United States wouldn't be so friendly to immigrants as it is currently - without the need for the manpower to run the National Reconstructions, I think the South would be a much tougher place to be an immigrant.

Take my family, for instance. We're Croats, who had to flee when the Swiss came out of their bunkers. Can you believe that the SWISS of all peoples used to be the neutral country of Europe? I can tell you from personal experience, the Schwietzer Reich is no joke! Once they realized that vast amount of salvage and natural resources available in the Great European Forest, they came out of their holes with a vengeance, let me tell you!* Swiss Exploration/Exploitation parties won't take no for an answer. Swiss reasource colonies are getting more common in Eastern Europe by the day. My family didn't want to be indentured servants building Grosse Zurich, and moved to Alabama, where there tolerance. Better a new country, than breaking my back building planes for the Schwiezer Luftwaffe.

The end of rationing in the 1990s was a real lift though - swinging times those, what with regular telephone service and the swing dance revival.

* The Swiss military is both larger than you might think, and stored a lot of its aircraft in gloriously bond villain mountain caverns that were hardened against atomic strikes. Combine a tucked away modern military, not being on anyone's target list, and the sheer number of IRBMS, fast bombers, etc. pointed at Western Europe by the Warsaw Pact, the Swiss could very well wake up to find themselves the ones partially intact, fully armed society in Europe.

 

[Bughuntertf]

I hope I get out of this bunker soon. I'm writing on an almanac and stuffing pages through my airhole, which a tree has not grown over yet, thankfully.

I'm somewhere in Texas. Place was a rather suburban area of Arlington and I was near a highway called "I-30" or at least that's what my great-grandfathers told me.

Big cities are a terrible idea! Being spread out is the way to ensure the survival of our species.

Now how do I ensure the survival of myself? I'm running out of food. And water.

 

[whiteyfats]

For a start, I'd probably be writing this on some sort of advanced electronic device that provides almost instantaneous communication though some sort of global data network, instead of endlessly writing these missives in response to figments of my fractured imagination, driven insane by the horrors of the post-apocalyptic nightmare in which we exist.

I love you.

Marry me. <3