DBWI: No Sega Playstation

In 1993, after Ninendo and Sony broke apart, Sony went to Sega to design their console. They created Codename Saturn, which would eventually become the highly popular Sega Playstation. It absolutely DESTROYED the N64 in sales. This then begs the question: What would happen if that deal fell apart as well? Would Sega even be in the hardware market? Would Nintendo have left? Would Sony make a console themselves? Would Microsoft join the console market instead of being a third party?
 
Well, it was definitely a big surprise to say the least. Sonic and the rest of the SEGA characters do fit in with the Playstation's appeal.

Granted, Nintendo didn't leave as much as take a break to focus on arcade machines for a while. SEGA only had Sonic and Sony was still enw so they made rookie msitakes. Expecting Nintendo to be gone for good from the console market is insane.

Sony could've succeeded without SEGA though in regards to their platform though. Granted, SEGA and Sony were beginning to fracture because on who should control what? Of course, some scandals involving Sony was enough for the gaming folk of Sony to leave and head to SEGA, with SEGA continuing with their Playstation 2 and so on. Of course, Sony's void would be filled in with Microsoft, who'd follow the example, but would down right purchase Rare and use that to make various IPs (though Nintendo got to keep the rights to Dinosaur Planet so hence why Krystal appears in Smash Bros and why she is getting her own games).

Nintendo would release their Gamecube after rumors that they were done for good. While it was clearly an experimental console, it definitely won the hearts of many. Then it beat SEGA'S PS3 and Microsoft's Xbox 360 with the Nintendo Wii and motion controls. Nintendo also suffered a blow when Capcom would make games exclusively for Microsoft and Power Stone becoming a rival for Smash.

Though Nintendo would score exclusive rights with Inti Creates and later Wayfoward Games, with Azure Gunvolt becoming popular on the handhelds and Shantae finally appearing in Smash among others. The Wii would then be superseceded by the Super Wii with HD and that tablet, which was a fun if not a bit underrated Gem. Still held up well against the PS4 and Xbox One, especially with Sonic taking a pretty hit from some questionable games as of late.

Now, there's Nintendo Project along with the Playstation 5 and whatever Microsoft has got cooking.

My guess would be that SEGA would probably make games exclusively for the console markets with Sony not being kicked out, since it was the conflicts with SEGA that led to the scandals...
 
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In 1993, after Ninendo and Sony broke apart, Sony went to Sega to design their console. They created Codename Saturn, which would eventually become the highly popular Sega Playstation. It absolutely DESTROYED the N64 in sales. This then begs the question: What would happen if that deal fell apart as well? Would Sega even be in the hardware market? Would Nintendo have left? Would Sony make a console themselves? Would Microsoft join the console market instead of being a third party?


Moviebob gives the cliff notes of this time in his The Emperor Has No Clothes video and it seems to be very unlikely Nintendo would leave the console market as they were the defacto king of it. Also third party developers really wanted someone...anyone else to challenge Ninendo so it is unlikely the Sony-Sega deal would fail. Sega was already in trouble by the early 1990s so their eventual implosion was a fore gone conclusion.

I should mention that the Playstation came out in 1994 while the N64 came out in 1996 ie two years later so that has to factored into comparing the two consoles. Also the early 1990s saw the now infamous Nintendo CD-I titles. In addition, the CD-Rom based PS2 was only 4 years alway (2000)

Nevermind that Microsoft did join the console market with the X-box (2001)
 
Moviebob gives the cliff notes of this time in his The Emperor Has No Clothes video and it seems to be very unlikely Nintendo would leave the console market as they were the defacto king of it. Also third party developers really wanted someone...anyone else to challenge Ninendo so it is unlikely the Sony-Sega deal would fail. Sega was already in trouble by the early 1990s so their eventual implosion was a fore gone conclusion.

I should mention that the Playstation came out in 1994 while the N64 came out in 1996 ie two years later so that has to factored into comparing the two consoles. Also the early 1990s saw the now infamous Nintendo CD-I titles. In addition, the CD-Rom based PS2 was only 4 years alway (2000)

Nevermind that Microsoft did join the console market with the X-box (2001)

((Dude, this is a DBWI. As in double-blind. We're talking as if we live in a unirverse where SEGA did join Sony))
 
Moviebob gives the cliff notes of this time in his The Emperor Has No Clothes video and it seems to be very unlikely Nintendo would leave the console market as they were the defacto king of it. Also third party developers really wanted someone...anyone else to challenge Ninendo so it is unlikely the Sony-Sega deal would fail. Sega was already in trouble by the early 1990s so their eventual implosion was a fore gone conclusion.

I should mention that the Playstation came out in 1994 while the N64 came out in 1996 ie two years later so that has to factored into comparing the two consoles. Also the early 1990s saw the now infamous Nintendo CD-I titles. In addition, the CD-Rom based PS2 was only 4 years alway (2000)

Nevermind that Microsoft did join the console market with the X-box (2001)

But you also seem to forget that before Microsoft, there was Panasonic's ill fated entry into the game industry. Shame that they couldn't get Konami to be exclusive to the 3do.
 
sega joining sony at that stage setup the failure of the Sega mega station

this allowed commodore who was on the brink to fight back with the CD32 in Europe and the americans to claw its way back into relevance. the debacle that was the sega mega playstation while okay for the time didn't hafve the integration of the ninetndo or the CD32

that and the quick release for the one time in commodore history, they released the cd-64 (sure it wasnt fully 64bit.. but it had all the right specs) a year later while working with Atari and Nintendo that stunned the world with a game machine / computer hybrid that actually lived up the multimedia hybrid promise. Yes the PC is still dominate in the world, but the combined might of Apple and commodore keep's Microsoft much more innovative I believe. Amiga OS 3.5 that came with the Cd-64 was leaps ahead of everyone else on the GUI and multitasking. lets not talk about the custom graphics chips from that upstart Nvidia that were integrated into the machine.
 
( I really would love a time line where the amiga survives as the second or 3rd player ) you all sega, Nintendo, sony, Microsoft peeps. Commodore had it.. they squandered it and died a horrid death :( give me one where commodore has a clue ..

hell sega teams up with commodore .. anything.. give a fella human a hand .. ;)

<sorry ramblings of an old man who loved his amiga beyond what is considered rational and normal and or healthy > but if being a better games machine would help matters and cash flow, then I am fine with that. The OS needed some work by 3.1 .. the machines needed to go to the next level, and lack of cash flow didn't help to do that, and well. if you could get the mindset to change inside the company. being a closed system wasn't helping matters much, but then again it was what it was. :( apple made it work somehow - commodore should sure as heck have been able too. what woul dhave been ironic for Atari to team up with Commodore on a next gen ( if they could start EARLY Enough to make it next gen enough. ) okay.. i'll stop now and go back to my private bunker and fire up my a1200 and drink my wine and play some dessert attack or prince of Persia or if any else ever played it. gravattack ( that was awesome sauce ) .. gack I'm rambling again :)

ON a serious note: my issue with these timelines is that Sega teaming up with sony would only mean that sega gets swallowed by Sony. I think that is why the Sony Nintendo deal fell through. now If you get two other players to team up and do it right there is a good chance. you need the catalog, the hardware, some vision and go. sega was stagnating. 3D0 wAS COOL, but simply had no catalog and even the titles didn't look that great compared to other platforms at the time.

The playstation and xbox struck at the weakness of both sega and Nintendo.. they were established and people had expectations about what they were playing and what was coming next and neither company wanted to rock the boat as the remember the 82-84 gaming collapse.
 
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But you also seem to forget that before Microsoft, there was Panasonic's ill fated entry into the game industry. Shame that they couldn't get Konami to be exclusive to the 3do.

Moviebob mentioned Panasonic's (they had a different name back then) ill-fated M2 which didn't make it to market. Also as I mentioned these are the cliff notes.
 
((Dude, this is a DBWI. As in double-blind. We're talking as if we live in a unirverse where SEGA did join Sony))

The problem is you have to have a handle on how things went in our world to even begin on a DBWI ala "If Lee Had not Won the Battle of Gettysburg" Besides the OP merely states OTL with no real hook to what the ATL is like. Heck, we could be dealing with an ATL where the Apple Pippin actually when somewhere...other then off the nearest cliff.
 
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