Otl, Alexander Hamilton, with endorsement from both Adams and Washington, was the third president of the US. his term saw massive centralization in the federal government, and a fair amount in the president. He increased tariffs massively, in a clear and successful attempt to kick start industrialization the united states, able to get textile mills all along the east coast. Able to successfully argue in many areas even when industrialization was in her infancy that it would be better for business if workers were able to afford things from the factory, making the idea of a minimum wage popular early on in the north and as details from the slave states in the south came to be known with novels like uncle tom's cabin over the early to mid 19th century, there was fierce pushback against slavery in the north. He even negotiated the louisiana purchase for like, a penny an acre.

Of course though, there's the Anglo-American Rapprochement Treaty he orchestrated, wherein, in exchange for stopping the impressment of sailors and merchants and not interfering with american expansion in the columbia territory, America would give up claims to all of canada, and allow the creation of a nation of native americans in the northern louisiana territory- the modern day 'Republic of the Dakota Peoples,' which would conveniently interfere with american expansion in the columbia territory, for decades. Granted, both Columbia and Washington were admitted with little trouble, but many american grumbled about how even touching the RDP would trigger war with Britain. But, all that could've been avoided.
Hamilton took a bit of convincing to run, and in fact, didn't want to until he heard through the
grapevine the Federalist Party was considering Aaron Burr, which is when Hamilton immediately declared his candidacy. So what if the federalists wanted someone else, and so Hamilton never ran?
 
Well, an America without Alexander Hamilton's Presidency would probably be less progressive on socio-economic fields and a weaker force on the world stage, for starters.
 

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how even touching the RDP would trigger war with Britain. But, all that could've been avoided.
And before long, Britain found the hard way that they maybe shouldn't organize and arm a potentially angry Native American nation... too much.

Well, Dakota's westward expansion to Oregon territory and subsequent vassalization/co-opting of Native Americans there ends up creating a very big, and very hostile Native American Republic in the Western side of North America.
 
I mean if we weren’t afraid of British intervention we would’ve intervened before The RDP radicalized into a anti-European country. I mean Britain supported our expedition in 1885 after 200 Protestants were executed by mob violence and they were declared innocent in what is considered a show trial.
 
I mean if we weren’t afraid of British intervention we would’ve intervened before The RDP radicalized into a anti-European country. I mean Britain supported our expedition in 1885 after 200 Protestants were executed by mob violence and they were declared innocent in what is considered a show trial.
Honestly the biggest upset was probably that General Sitting Bull was allowed to go on to become a Chief in the Council. Granted he was 55 so a lot of the influence was given to Crow Foot, but still. And i wouldn't call 'I won't honor our treaties with this power,' support, biggest thing they did was let us have a division go through canada bout a month before hand to invade from the north.
 
It wasn’t so much military support as it wise intelligence on how the RDP Army would be fighting. In that sense they contributed substantially they gave the expedition A comprehensive breakdown on the RDP defense of strategy, they gave us a accurate description of what modern weapons they possessed, and finally they agreed to prevent the smuggling of more modern weapons.
 
Thinking about it, could the Civil War be averted? Since Henry Clay's term a few decades later than Hamilton, many in the south felt underrepresented... ya know, despite the version of the Constitution at the time actually let the Senate propose bills and them still using the electoral college while they owned people and had substantially less population.
Granted avoiding the civil war might be a bad thing since we don't suddenly have a massive opportunity and excuse to abolish slavery and reconstruct the country to actually represent the people and not just the money-men of both north and south.
 
Well, an America without Alexander Hamilton's Presidency would probably be less progressive on socio-economic fields and a weaker force on the world stage, for starters.

OOC: And yet it was Burr who promoted the abolish of slavery, education of women, and women's suffrage.
 
Honestly? We'd be better off if that monarchist-adjacent bastard never became President. The man wanted to look like a right prince and damn well fucked up America in the process of it all. The easiest bet to get him out the running would be, well, for a more centralized opposition to the Federalists. If the Republican Party was able to stay afloat (probably through support from a more moderate person, like Madison), they would've been able to scoop up a lot more stray candidates, including Burr. This Republican Party would probably have Jefferson as the frontrunner for 1800. There main opposition would probably be someone like Adams running for a second term, but I could see it being anyone, so long as Burr isn't nominee for the Reps. We might see him go VP, but that's as far up the latter I think Burr would go.
 
Honestly? We'd be better off if that monarchist-adjacent bastard never became President. The man wanted to look like a right prince and damn well fucked up America in the process of it all. The easiest bet to get him out the running would be, well, for a more centralized opposition to the Federalists. If the Republican Party was able to stay afloat (probably through support from a more moderate person, like Madison), they would've been able to scoop up a lot more stray candidates, including Burr. This Republican Party would probably have Jefferson as the frontrunner for 1800. There main opposition would probably be someone like Adams running for a second term, but I could see it being anyone, so long as Burr isn't nominee for the Reps. We might see him go VP, but that's as far up the latter I think Burr would go.
Eh, copying the most powerful (and representative) government on the planet is a pretty smart idea and better than risking Jefferson (who loathed the idea of the Constitution vs the AoC and was a bit behind the times on economic philosophy)
 
Eh, copying the most powerful (and representative) government on the planet is a pretty smart idea and better than risking Jefferson (who loathed the idea of the Constitution vs the AoC and was a bit behind the times on economic philosophy)
Perhaps Madison, then? A lot more moderate than Jefferson, but still a lot more libertarian than Hamilton.
 
Perhaps Madison, then? A lot more moderate than Jefferson, but still a lot more libertarian than Hamilton.
Fair enough. Madison did help write the federalist papers. He just never seemed one to go for Hard Power, so to speak. A speaker, a lawmaker, and a diplomat, but he always seemed the sort to prefer to keep to the sides.
 

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Granted avoiding the civil war might be a bad thing since we don't suddenly have a massive opportunity and excuse to abolish slavery and reconstruct the country to actually represent the people and not just the money-men of both north and south.
It still goes in a very wrong that the Southerners ended up selling majority of their slaves to the Dakotan Indians (who never have qualms about slavery and indeed, many Native American chiefs owned their own massive slave plantations), just before the Union started to enforce anti-slavery measurements.

Still, many argued that the Black Slaves were actually being treated much better by the Native Americans, during the war of 1880s, Blacks were recorded fighting loyally alongside their Indian masters, even if US-British alliance actually promised any slaves who deserted the Dakotans to be treated as free men. Maybe the White hypocrisy did play a role here, as the Indians never have any qualms treating Black Warriors as one of their own from the start, but Free Blacks only becoming full fledged Citizens with voting rights during the 1930s.

Yes, the Dakotans do abolish their slavery in 1890s after Black Warriors' playing a big role on pushing back the US invasion.
 
Without Hamilton the republicans could have dominated the government and turned America into a agrarian state built off slavery could be a way of making the north rebel instead of the south
 
I don't know what the world would look like without a president Hamilton, but I can easily give a scenario where there is no Hamilton - president or not- at the 1800 enections. Hamilton was extremely fixated on personal honor and is known to have fought nine pistol duels already by 1800. In 1804, while still president , he even actually challenged Burr to a duel. Cooler heads prevailed and eventually both sides agreed to a series of public excuces but it still goes to show that Hamilton clearly had no regard for his own safety when it came to people attacking his person instead of just his policies. While today it is just a curious footnote of history that we almost lost a president in a duel, there are still the nine other duels he fought before that one. Granted, most of them were highly symbolic affairs of honor where the aim of the game was to prove one was brave enough to actually show up and stand still while the other shot a gun in one's general vincinity, accidents tended to happen. Thus Hamilton had several brushes with death even before the 1800 election and if only one of his duels were to go the other way, the Federalists would be not just without a leader but literally headless going into the 1800 election resulting possibly in a completely different United States than the one we live in now
 
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