DBWI: No Grexit?

longsword14

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Oh My Deepest apologies your majesty. It didnt go the way you wanted thefore you feel Its insult to the Lese Majeste. Im afraid i cant help Your majesty in this case.
OOC; At least spell correctly and capitalise your letters. If all the Greeks needed to recover was ditching the EU, they would have done so. Note how no matter how much noise is made the Greeks always fold.
 
Despite all the talk about Greece being a basket case, and there is no question that it still is one, there have been some signs that Europe through fear is backfiring. While politically the Greeks can't seem to get it together, economically its a different story. Despite articles about the collapse of the Greek economy exports are up, the job creation figures are positive, and despite the migrant crisis tourism is up. These aren't large, dramatic, gains which can be touted as a full on recovery but its all better then they were doing as an EU member. My own prediction is that we are going to see a slow but steady recovery over the next few years despite pressure from Brussels and that is going to set off another round of exits from the EU block. Mind you i think most of the exits this time around are going to fail because everyone who's pushing for them is saying that exiting the EU is a panacea which is complete crap, but the next set of politicos and activists who push for an EU exit are going to be more realistic and are going to be able to point to Greece as a success story. Of course all of this is a couple of years down the road so things could very well change in the mean time.

News of Greece slowly recovery are started the moment she left the EU...and we are still waiting.

OOC: im sorry but we are not running EUtopia here.

Neither EUdistopya, so please try to act civil

IC:Honestly With Germany Trying to limit the voting power of smaller states, yes id say the attempt at new Lisbon treaty make EU rather authoritian, Europe Throught Fear will not work imho.

It's not only Germany but also France, Italy and the rest of the big guys that are a little tired of things like a Belgium region stalling the signing of the Treaty with Canada...and it's a thing that had been discussed from day one of the Treaty of Rome so not only it's extremely old news but this fearmongering it's not really helpfull.

Frankly i think that without Greexit the EU will be worsen off, Athens being let go ironically had made the rest more compact...expecially after the situation there had become much much problematic and the bombastic and populistic anti-eu slogan have showed how hollow they were (and frankly that political mess that was Brexit really had not helped...the United Kingdom*)

*OTL situation but with Corbyn barely winning the election (with a very divided Labour) and facing a much less 'helpfull' EU
 

CalBear

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Oh My Deepest apologies your majesty. It didnt go the way you wanted thefore you feel Its insult to the Lese Majeste. Im afraid i cant help Your majesty in this case.
You were warned about this sort of thing less than two weeks ago. Guess you need a stronger reminder.

See ya' in 7. Leave the passive-aggressive in the other room when you return.
 
News of Greece slowly recovery are started the moment she left the EU...and we are still waiting.

Well yes, but then the currency crisis hit and that destroyed the 'recovery' which was predicted... but the numbers don't lie. The Greek economy has better job creation numbers then Italy and Spain, not by much but it is there, and that is significant. I have no doubt that Greek politicians are more then capable of ruining the recovery that is occurring but... this seems to be happening in spite of them rather then because of them. Right now the situation has been stabilized, and the economic numbers suggest that the long talked about recovery is finally happening. The politicos and commentators who pushed for the exit were wildly optimistic about the time line, but i don't think they were wrong about the substance. Decoupling Greece from the Euro and from the austerity measures that the German banks wanted to impose on her will have a positive effect, it would have happened sooner but... the political mess that is the Greek government kept it from occurring. Of course the currency crisis did have the unintended side effect of of reducing the Greek national debt to a manageable level because of inflation and Brussels not acting fast enough to keep up, which I'm sure is going to cause political problems long term.
 
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