DBWI: no Altrumian empire

trollolol12

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the Altrumian empire: one of the most important empires of the western world (we could say that is the most important empire of the western world), our civilization is built on the bases that left the Altrumian empire, even some words come from the Altrumian language (like the word "empire", that comes from the Altrumian word "mpiere"), their culture and life style affected even the kaelthic federation. so, i have to ask ¿what would the world look like without the Altrumian empire?¿Would there be a nation that would have replaced it?
 

Lord Of Tacos

(OOC: where's the POD?, it appears that you have a Celtic Empire in central europe and Carthage has survived, so Rome was destroyed or never was, but otherwise I don't know where to put them to try to guess a factual history for them)
 
The Professor

The Professor

Didn't the Altrumes borrow heavily from the the Wotsits and Nicnaques?
I'm sure one of them could have produced a similar emporium.
 

trollolol12

Lord Of Tacos said:
(OOC: where's the POD?, it appears that you have a Celtic Empire in central europe and Carthage has survived, so Rome was destroyed or never was, but otherwise I don't know where to put them to try to guess a factual history for them)
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OOC: funny thing is that the Altrumes aren't (or weren't) celtics, they are other tribe, we can say that there is a rome but it was built by the Altrumian empire..so the POD is in the bronze age, like @Sheliak Lawyer says.
 

trollolol12

The Professor said:
Didn't the Altrumes borrow heavily from the the Wotsits and Nicnaques?
I'm sure one of them could have produced a similar emporium.
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well...the Wotsis maybe but the Nicnaques i doubt it: they were a society divided into several rival city-states, so it is unlikely that these have built an empire. Unless...
 

Codae

trollolol12 said:
well...the Wotsis maybe but the Nicnaques i doubt it: they were a society divided into several rival city-states, so it is unlikely that these have built an empire. Unless...
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Nicnaque Padi Uaque is the obvious POD. Before he died, he had Giftha, Dahga, and Bhonn under his sway; if he'd lived long enough to pass a stable dominion to a competent successor, those three cities would provide a good base for eventual unification and, potentially, foreign expansion.
 

PlayerOne

I expect you would see a much more religiously and culturally diverse Central Titielerop with even more language families present, while the sea would be dominated by Carthage and Egypt. As much as the Altrumans liked to throw their weight around in the south, they were never quite able to crack it, and I doubt any Alt Altrum could.
 

trollolol12

Baron Bizarre said:
I suppose this butterflies away the S'peyss-Ph'yllling Empire?
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i don't think so, the S'peyss-Ph'yllling tribes came from asia in 472 AC, so, it didn't depend on the existence of the Altrumian empire, but we can say that the S'peyss-Ph'yllling Empire could have been butterflied if some other tribes (like the Huns) had destroyed it.
 

trollolol12

Codae said:
Nicnaque Padi Uaque is the obvious POD. Before he died, he had Giftha, Dahga, and Bhonn under his sway; if he'd lived long enough to pass a stable dominion to a competent successor, those three cities would provide a good base for eventual unification and, potentially, foreign expansion.
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yeah, i think the same way: a Nicnaque empire could have rise and developed, butterflying away the Altrumian empire...but i can't see them dominating Titielerop because of the Wotsi republic...maybe, or maybe we can see one of them absorbing the other...
 

trollolol12

PlayerOne said:
I expect you would see a much more religiously and culturally diverse Central Titielerop with even more language families present, while the sea would be dominated by Carthage and Egypt. As much as the Altrumans liked to throw their weight around in the south, they were never quite able to crack it, and I doubt any Alt Altrum could.
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hmmm...interesting...yeah, i can't see any Titieleropean power conquering Egypt and Carthage totally. Carthage became an Altrumian vassal empire because they surrendered to Altrum's "hit-and-run" naval tactics, while Egypt became vassal because Queen Cleopatra VII married the Umneht Jacosk Ilphygu.
 

trollolol12

hey, what do you think about the new "alt-hist" novel, "the roman empire"?, i didn't read it yet, but i read in some pages that that novel is BAD alternate history speculation..
 
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