DBWI: No AI breakthrough in the Cold War?

I understand that Artificial Intelligence is still a touchy subject with many people, so if this thread ends up being locked I understand, but I honestly want to know what people think would've happened.

So, like the title says, what would have happened if that Soviet scientists whose name I can't remember hadn't developed the Cherno Code and sparked the AI race between the USSR and America?
 

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You'd have to make the Soviet Union collapse before the invention of vacuum-channel transistors, which allowed the Soviets to catch up and exceed the Western MOSFET in transistors per circuit, increasing computing power. So sometime before 1999.
 
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Well, the Cherno Code and the OGAS AI ultimately helped the Soviet economy, so we might've gotten economic stagnation in the 80's.

Also, perhaps the "False Alarm" scandal of the mid 1990's might not have happened, without an AI making an error, and nearly releasing a missile.
 
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Well, the Cherno Code and the OGAS AI ultimately helped the Soviet economy, so we might've gotten economic stagnation in the 60's and 70's.

Also, perhaps the "False Alarm" scandal of the mid 1990's might not have happened, without an AI making an error, and nearly releasing a missile.
OOC: Algorithmic stock trading wasn't widespread in the US until the 1980s. An even more complicated centrally planned economy could not be simulated in the 60s or the 70s.
 

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OOC: I moved the timeframe up to the 80's
OOC: I don't think a planned-economy-simulating computing system could have been made in the 2000s let alone the 1980s. The computing power just wasn't there, still isn't really.
 
OOC: I don't think a planned-economy-simulating computing system could have been made in the 2000s let alone the 1980s. The computing power just wasn't there, still isn't really.
OOC: I'm assuming a POD, where Cybernetics was not banned in the late 40's, and this allowed computing in the USSR to be furthered, and the OGAS project in the 60's not getting cancelled, and having computers as its main instrument eventually. This leads to research into further automation, (which leads to the formation of the Cherno Code), and eventually to centralized planning to a small degree in the mid-80's, which is not fully adopted until the 2000's. That was my thought process.
 
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OOC: I'm assuming a POD, where Cybernetics was not banned in the late 40's, and this allowed computing in the USSR to be furthered, and the OGAS project in the 60's not getting cancelled, and having computers as its main instrument eventually. This leads to research into further automation, (which leads to the formation of the Cherno Code), and eventually to centralized planning to a small degree in the mid-80's, which is not fully adopted until the 2000's. That was my thought process.
OOC: Oh, I see. Now that could work. Very interesting idea, maybe we should have a non-DBWI thread about it so we can discuss that in more detail.
 
We wouldn't have universal translation without the AI's, so international trade would be less -- imagine humans having to manually translate a trade deal into fifteen languages. Or trying to translate anything into Dolphin or Orca...
 
Reduced AI development means much less industrial usage of genetic algorithms. The 00s nanotech boom was caused by genetic algorithms making a lot of designs which were too precise and difficult to manufacture normally by the tech of 90s.
Also, there may have been a recession in the early 00s. I can't remember where I read it though.
 
The Soviet Union had a host of economic problems other than fine grained plan quality or policy distorted antidemocratic planning.

It was quite a feat that they managed to rebalance towards consumer goods production with high quality desired goods that outpaced demand sufficiently for export WHILE resolving the labour indiscipline quality and productivity problems.

This was glanced over in the history course I took on labour history, could you fill me in on how they managed this especially under the moribund old guard?

Yours,
Sam R.
 
The Soviet Union had a host of economic problems other than fine grained plan quality or policy distorted antidemocratic planning.

It was quite a feat that they managed to rebalance towards consumer goods production with high quality desired goods that outpaced demand sufficiently for export WHILE resolving the labour indiscipline quality and productivity problems.

This was glanced over in the history course I took on labour history, could you fill me in on how they managed this especially under the moribund old guard?

Yours,
Sam R.

Well, you know AI. They tend to be pretty good at planning things. I mean, don't get me wrong, the way they did it was asbolutely horrid - it made Stalin's industrialization look like child's play - but it was dreadfully effective. That's what my history teacher told me anyway, I personally know jack shit about economics so you'd have to ask someone else how exactly they did it.
 
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