I honestly think that the Uighur and Tatar Genocides ...
OOC: And this sort of thing is why DBWIs and other collaboratives don't do well. A Muslim ban is just barely within the realm of believability. This is not, and smacks of Isalmaphobia as well.
I honestly think that the Uighur and Tatar Genocides ...
OOC: So we've got 92 distinct national governments involved, including multiple world-class intelligence agencies, and every single one of them drops the ball on seeing this attack coming? How is this not the Queen Mother of all alien space bats? OTL Osama Bin Laden dropped his plans to hit twelve U.S. cities (IIRC) down to just two because he couldn't handle the logistics of planning ten extra attacks, let alone 97.
OOC: And this sort of thing is why DBWIs and other collaboratives don't do well. A Muslim ban is just barely within the realm of believability. This is not, and smacks of Islamophobia as well.
OOC: Exactly. This has come up in all the previous threads considering a bigger-than-OTL 9/11. Even if the attacks were only twice bigger than IOTL, they would have been well more then twice more likely to be found out beforehand. The attacks in the OP would have required hundreds if not thousands of people to be in the know about the plans and involved in setting up the attacks on some level. There is simply no way that someone, somewhere would not have found out what is happening and alerted a national law enforcement agency which would have put the warning out to other nations. This would have most likely taken place already when Bin Laden was just recruiting people for his much-bigger-than-OTL organization, it all would have never gone to the stage of actual mass attacks.
OCC Long periods of peace, and lackidasical security do happen.
I could mayyyybe see it after several centuries of peace, where "war" becomes as foreign a concept as stone tools, but the people in power in 2001 all had first-hand memories of - if not the Second World War - the Cuban Missile Crisis, the Vietnam War, and other terrors of the Cold War. It shaped their world views on a fundamental level, and a single decade of peace isn't going to change them. And "lackadaisical" is quite possibly one of the biggest understatements that I have ever seen in my life. Humanity would have to invent a whole new word to describe the sheer, jawdropping incompetence of hundreds of thousands of intelligence agents. To be perfectly honest, I wouldn't be surprised if there'd be worldwide riots and revolts as the public comes to realise the complete and utter inability of their current governments to protect them.
This isn't a bad topic for a thread, but I still maintain that it belongs in the ASB forum.
For one we wouldn't have the widespread coups and civil wars in developed countries thanks to the power vacuum the event caused.
OOC: Exactly. This has come up in all the previous threads considering a bigger-than-OTL 9/11. Even if the attacks were only twice bigger than IOTL, they would have been well more then twice more likely to be found out beforehand. The attacks in the OP would have required hundreds if not thousands of people to be in the know about the plans and involved in setting up the attacks on some level. There is simply no way that someone, somewhere would not have found out what is happening and alerted a national law enforcement agency which would have put the warning out to other nations. This would have most likely taken place already when Bin Laden was just recruiting people for his much-bigger-than-OTL organization, it all would have never gone to the stage of actual mass attacks.