Probably not, considering that Republicanism and the Bonapartists were far more popular at the time. Marxism itself didn't really find much of a root in the French state until the 1890s, and even in their heyday the Fabians were notably more popular than they were though, since no one wanted to destroy the Third Republic.So in 1843, Marx was actually thinking about moving the Paris. What if he hadn't changed his mind and moved to the Houston instead? Could we see Marxism flourish in France instead of in Texas? Possibly even with Texas joining the US before the ACW?
If he became urban like that, he might not have been able to come to an agreement with Bakunin and the Anarcho-Socialist wing of the International, and it would've possibly fractured. He would've had no allies likely, since he never really got along with the Fabians, finding their actions to be too sluggish and too diluted for effective social change.If Marx had lived in any large city (such as Paris) his ideology probably would have been based mostly around industrial production and intellectual theory, the notion that small towns and tribal councils should be virtually independent didn't occur to Marx until he toured what we today call the Comanche Marches during his wilderness years. Assuming that Marx did take a more urbanized prospective, Marxism would have probably been far more influential in a place like Britain and ignored in the Zakatimet of Arabia.
(OOC: Zakatimet is a popular transliteration that means 'charity-state' and references the fusion of Islamic values and Marxist economics that defines Alt Arabian Peninsula)
Well, the Lateiners were leaving a country that was currently going through another bout of seperatist rebellions and the highest string of Pronunciamientos that Mexico faced since Guadalupe Victoria's initial stint ended. People sometimes forget that Mexico was a failed state until Benito Juarez's very successful terms righted the nation. The Lateiners didn't expect how far in the boonies Texas was, but the comparative safety of the Pueblos and the (comparative) stability Texas had made it a good place to settle and prosper, or at worst serve as a reliable stop by until you migrated to Louisiana or the Ozarks.Without the connections Marx built, I doubt we would see anything close to OTL's number of political refugees to Texas after 1848. I think a lot of the future Lateiner assumed that because Marx lived there, it had to be somewhat civilized (in error lol). And even so, if Marx hadn't spent five years examining socialism in the practical world of early Texas, and developing the applied philosophies that the Latin Settlements used, I doubt most of them would have lasted long. Even those that eventually disbanded or were absorbed into larger communities left tight Lateiner political organizations in their wake.
Slavery was actually a very minor factor in the Texan War of Independence, unlike the US Civil War. When Santa Anna tried to centralize the Mexican government, there was opposition across the nation and several secessionist movements. The Californios, the Republic of the Río Grande, the Republic of Zacatecas, and the Republic of Yucatán all attempted secession at varying times, and none of them had slavery.OOC: Uh, wouldn't the Texans run Marx out of state on a rail? They'd just fought a war to preserve slavery in their nascent colony/nation, I doubt they'd have any tolerance for someone advocating the dissolution of class divisions.
OOC: There were also a few freethinking communities, also ones settled by Germans, in Texas where Marx could've settled, such as the one below. Perhaps his ideas would spread from there.OOC: Uh, wouldn't the Texans run Marx out of state on a rail? They'd just fought a war to preserve slavery in their nascent colony/nation, I doubt they'd have any tolerance for someone advocating the dissolution of class divisions.
OOC: I just assumed that the messed up demographics of early Texas allowed Marx and his ideals to find roots in from the freethinking communities and tribal lands he lived in this timeline.
Yeah, slaves were mainly a big thing for the southerners who tried their luck in Texas. It never was viable outside of the easternmost parts of Texas, and after the Cotton Rebellion was effectively a nonissue. Other industries and I believe pepper and cattle became more important to the region afterwards.
OOC: But there were also many other fairly large reasons as well.The OT explicitly says he moved to Houston, which was at one point the capital of the Republic of Texas. If he was living in New Braunfels, I could understand, but Houston?
And as a Texan, I just think it's disingenuous to imply that the slavery issue had little to do with the tensions between the Texian settlers and the government in Mexico City. Mexico had, afterall, outlawed slavery six years before the revolution.
And not just that Karl got the right mix between capitalism and socialism.. . . the notion that small towns and tribal councils should be virtually independent didn't occur to Marx until he toured what we today call the Comanche Marches during his wilderness years. . .
OOC: True, but the slavery issue had been mainly defused by the Mexicans allowing 99 year indentured servant contracts; many of the slaves in TX were brought in under this loophole... if they even bothered. Mexican enforcement of the rule was pretty haphazard...The OT explicitly says he moved to Houston, which was at one point the capital of the Republic of Texas. If he was living in New Braunfels, I could understand, but Houston?
And as a Texan, I just think it's disingenuous to imply that the slavery issue had little to do with the tensions between the Texian settlers and the government in Mexico City. Mexico had, afterall, outlawed slavery six years before the revolution.
And not just that Karl got the right mix between capitalism and socialism.
He made the far more artful move of getting the right mix between a formal economy and an informal economy of reciprocity. And when all is said and done, the primary backstop of a cash economy is that it enables importation of food during periods of famine.
Very quickly, Karl noticed people are in favor of a person becoming rich through their own efforts but solidly against monopoly power.Yeah, he realized that humans needed some amount of incentive when it came to the economy. He didn't like that realization, but he swallowed his pride when he collected the results. It really was fortunate that he had a scientist's mindset when it came to his work really.