DBWI: Lyndon LaRouche goes into politics

overoceans

Suppose that instead of sticking with his spy novels, most notably the Matt Crockett series(and subsequent films) in which patriotic American agents do battle with evil limeys seeking to foist heroin addiction and other evils onto the world, Lyndon LaRouche had gone into politics.

I know it's hard to believe that someone with such a vivid imagination could devote any attention to real-world issues, and the temptation is to say that he'd just devolve into a crackpot conspiracy kook, albeit of the highly entertaining variety. But who knows, he was a pretty smart guy, so he might have had the neccessary skills to get ahead in mainstream politics.
 
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Sam R.

You need to look at his politics in real life. He was peripheral to American Trotskyism but gradually and then decisively broke with it. You’re more asking “what if LaRouche’s politics had been significant?”

Writers usually make bad and fanciful ideologues or manoeuvrers. Even if the whole royal heroin thing became part of his vibe, unlikely as it wouldn’t sell to bourgeois undergrads with money to fund a party, even if, he won’t topple Posadas’ throne.
 

David T

This is fun, but Lyndon Larouche would never have wasted his time with either spy novels or frivolous political campaigns. He was a serious Marxist economist whose work Dialectical Economics was so impressive that it was published by a major textbook publishing house (D. C . Heath and Company) and reviewed by a distinguished bourgeois economist (Martin Bronfenbrenner) in the Journal of Political Economy. https://www.jstor.org/stable/1830175?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents No doubt his view that Lenin and Trotsky were both to some extent "centrists" and that the only person who really understood Marx was Rosa Luxemburg and that even her work was flawed https://sites.google.com/site/thecampaignerunbound/home/in-defense-of-rosa-luxemburg will always be controversial, but I just do not see him leaving theoretical economics for either spy novels or useless campaigns for office.
 

Winestu

Sam R. said:
You need to look at his politics in real life. He was peripheral to American Trotskyism but gradually and then decisively broke with it. You’re more asking “what if LaRouche’s politics had been significant?”

Writers usually make bad and fanciful ideologues or manoeuvrers. Even if the whole royal heroin thing became part of his vibe, unlikely as it wouldn’t sell to bourgeois undergrads with money to fund a party, even if, he won’t topple Posadas’ throne.
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Who is Posadas?
 

Sam R.

Verso stole the internet’s image
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But there aren’t enough dolphins to fully explain Posadas thought.

Posadas was a South American Trot who went off the deep end in “new age” territory. “Drop the bombs so communist aliens can rescue us from capital” is a contemporary neo-posadist vibe. I am not sure how this authentically relates to a micro sect in the 1960s.
 

David T

Winestu said:
Who is Posadas?
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J. Posadas was an Argentine Trotskyist who carried Trotskyism to its logical conclusion--he not only opposed the idea of "socialism in one country" but also "socialism on one planet" :p

"Beginning in 1968, Posadas also became known for his theories concerning UFOs. If anything like UFOs existed, they could demonstrate the existence of agents able to master a very sophisticated technology, something that would be compatible with what in this planet was advocated by socialism. If UFO existed, they could be allied in addressing some of the major problems in the earth.

"In his pamphlet Les Soucoupes Volantes, le processus de la matiere et de l'energie, la science et le socialisme (Flying Saucers, the process of matter and energy, science and socialism), Posadas pleaded that "“We must call upon beings from other planets when they come to intervene, to collaborate with the inhabitants of the Earth to overcome misery. We must launch a call on them to use their resources to help us.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Posadas

Of course small-minded Philistines within the Trotskyist movement ridiculed Posadas' idea that comrades from outer space could help bring about the revolution. They even called his newspaper, the "Voz Proletaria" the "Voz Planetaria"...

(Posadas had other interesting ideas as well, such as that the "degenerated workers' states" should launch a nuclear World War III against the capitalist world...)
 
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