DBWI Liberia plan does not go through

In the aftermath of the civil war there were several dicussions about what to do with the freed slaves of the south. There was talk about giving them full rights, making them citazins, about doing the right thing. Talk about 40 arces and a mule.

Instead what happened was one of the most shameful periods of american history, the Liberia act was passed and declared that the former slaves would be transported back to africa. Over a period of 40 years, most of the souths black population was carted off to Liberia. When the program ended in 1902 the north had more black people then the south did.

The loss of human capital, of history, and culture can not be measured.

But what would have happened if we had decided to embrace the former slaves, and give them the rights that all americans deserve? What if the Liberia plan had failed?
 
Well to start, one of the largest acts of genocide of the 20th century would have been avoided. Countless black Americans died during the forcible roundups and transportation, and loads more died to disease once they arrived in Africa. Not to mention all the deaths from the people who tried to resist and fight the program.

This could also have a few knock-off effects. Maybe industrialization is a little slower to take off in certain areas, since there were be more cheap labor left available. At the same time, it's possible the United States would be more vulnerable to socialist revolutions, either from the disillusioned white underclass who would now have to compete with more black peers, or from the black citizens themselves who realized the white elites would never freely grant true equality.

Maybe this also means Brazil doesn't try to imitate the States with its "Amazon Settlement Program" that had even worse results.
 
In short, one of the greatest genocides in human history would have been averted.

The mortality rates for black Americans being forcibly transplanted back to Liberia was what? 85%? 90%? I forget exactly. Besides, the exact calculation depends a bit on whether it includes the tail end of the period, when there was at least some treatments for the worst of the diseases, malaria and yellow fever. Not that those treatments were applied to most of the former Americans, but by saying that they were sending quinine and a few doses of yellow fever vaccine, the bloody-minded racist mass murderers Southern governments ordering deportation could pretend that they were trying to do something.

How many black Americans died in the Holocaust? (I prefer that name to revisionists who try to call it by the official name of Liberian Act.) 5 million? 6 million? Historians still argue about the exact number. It's most telling that historians can't even be sure to the nearest million, because the government which passed the act did not even bother to keep track of how many died, but kept sending millions of Americans to almost certain death.
 
Even if they were treated like shit, surviving and finding a niche in an oppressive system is better than mass deportations with mass death. The old Americo-Liberian class didn't treat them much better either than the South did and would have, although as we saw in the 1950s, the broken system of Liberia was at least able to be overthrown (granted with plenty of death on all sides) unlike the more stable system of the South and the United States.

The South would be far more developed, since it would have more agricultural capital as well as wealth to industrialise with. Without cheap labour, the New South was just a dream from a couple promoters who actually managed to attract a small amount of industry.
 
The Liberian version of "Mainfest Destiny" probably would never came into existence and Liberia itself wouldn't have been as big as it is today.

Back during the early 18th century, Americo-Liberians numbered only thousands so they need to lord over the natives to use them as labor force. In the aftermath of the Holocaust though, the natives were force to relinquish their jobs and lands to the newly arrived, and surviving, Americo-Liberians. And so to the surprise of no one several wars of annihilation eventually start resulting in several tribes and chiefdoms wiped off the map and lead the Liberians to - now with Federal U.S support - "liberate" their surrounding territory from "uneducated barbarians".
 
In short, one of the greatest genocides in human history would have been averted.

The mortality rates for black Americans being forcibly transplanted back to Liberia was what? 85%? 90%? I forget exactly. Besides, the exact calculation depends a bit on whether it includes the tail end of the period, when there was at least some treatments for the worst of the diseases, malaria and yellow fever. Not that those treatments were applied to most of the former Americans, but by saying that they were sending quinine and a few doses of yellow fever vaccine, the bloody-minded racist mass murderers Southern governments ordering deportation could pretend that they were trying to do something.

How many black Americans died in the Holocaust? (I prefer that name to revisionists who try to call it by the official name of Liberian Act.) 5 million? 6 million? Historians still argue about the exact number. It's most telling that historians can't even be sure to the nearest million, because the government which passed the act did not even bother to keep track of how many died, but kept sending millions of Americans to almost certain death.

I've looked up the numbers 35% causality rates, all together which is unnaceptably high but not the same level of death you saw with the slave trade. Its still one of the most horrible things this country has ever done though.
 
I've looked up the numbers 35% causality rates, all together which is unnaceptably high but not the same level of death you saw with the slave trade. Its still one of the most horrible things this country has ever done though.
You must be looking at a source which gives the numbers of deaths in forced transit, not once they've arrived there. The disease environment in Liberia - indeed, the whole of West Africa - is much, much worse than that.

Even before the POD, Americans who moved to Liberia had horrendously high mortality rates - about 50% of them dead in the first year, and with very high death rates continuing thereafter. The diseases simply killed them in very high percentages, and there was nothing that could stop it. People at the time had assumed that having African gave them greater resistance to tropical African diseases.

It didn't.

Instead, the large majority of the early Americo-Liberians (pre-ACW) died within a handful of years of getting there. At the time, people could be sorta-possibly excused sending them there through ignorance, since the early migrants were mostly voluntary.

The same is not true of the forced migration (what a hideous euphemism) post the American Civil War. Black Americans were dying in droves from disease even once they were forcibly dumped in Liberia. The mortality rates were horrific, and there was no way to hide it. The American governments (state and federal) which carried out this Holocaust knew that if they sent a million black Americans to Liberia, more than 800,000 of them would be dead within 5-10 years. Quite probably 900,000. Yet they kept sending them. Genocide is the only word to describe it.
 
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