DBWI James Camerons Titanic a success.

I had tears in my eyes when the Bismark sank, the deep groans of metal were like a death cry, coupled with poor Willi stuck down in engineering's plight... But yes I'll take your advice to heart :)

The scene were the HMS Dorset is forced to leave due to Uboat warning, leaving hundreds of German Sailors to drown... I think the entire theater was bawling their eyes out after that. Man that film pulled no punches.
 
The only person I felt sorry for was Alicia Silverstone, cast as Rose, the female lead. How Cameron expected a Jewish girl from California to play an upper-class uptight East Coast WASP convincingly is beyond me.

With Cage demanding more and more re-writes on the set to give his character "more depth" :D, the role of Rose suffered all the worse for it, leaving her character just a shell of the former part, reduced to following Cage's lead. The only noteworthy scene that was left to her was her nude scene posing for the portrait in her cabin that was done by Cage (Christ, he didn't even know enough to hold the charcoal correctly!).

With all the post-production yet to be done on "Titanic" she then moved on to film her now infamous role as Batgirl in "Batman & Robin" (Really, nipples on her costume? Whatever were they thinking? :eek:).

"Titanic" open and quickly flopped and that was followed by the release of "Batman & Robin" and as that received generally negative reviews and audience reactions, her career went into tailspin and never really recovered.

She now donates her time and efforts as a spokesperson to various animal rights and eco-causes in Los Angeles.

So sad. Personally, I liked the nipples. :D
 
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The thing that really came out as bizarre to me was this:

James Cameron refused to cut the footage down to below three hours, the rumour mill citing that he said "And look what it did to Costner!"

The thing is, when 'Waterworld' finally received a full length - 4.9 hour - release back in 2007, viewers were able to realise it was actually a fairly decent movie. Whereas 'Titanic' needed to get the filler taken out. Weird. :confused: :confused:
 
Easy, just give the film ONE main story and some more focus. The idea wasn't that bad. Sure, Silverstone wouldn't pass for a 1912 Philadelphian socialite in a million years and Cage looked like a creep with that stupid blonde whig and overacting as his idea of a horny 20-something, but they could have been more watchable if they actually got *more* screentime and their story and personalities were more fleshed out. Instead we had a bazillion side stories: Rose and Jack, Molly Brown, JJ Astor and his wife, the Strausses, that cameraman and his grilfriend in 1st class, the 2nd class priest, the birracial couple, the Italian and the Norwegian in steerage, the Syrians, Ismay, the Captain, Murdoch, Mooney, the butler with the other maid chick, the radio operators, the Irish coaler linked to Sinn Feinn, OH. Come. On. There was no way to keep track of so many characters and separate storylines. So what if a movie about the Titanic follows mostly a fictional couple's love story, like, say, the Italian and the Norwegian's, rather than trying to show (and follow!) as many historical people as possible. Less pandering to the Titanic buffs, more to the average moviegoer who all he knows about the Titanic is that it was a ship that sank, or not even that. And of course, less ambition and trying to showcase every single thing that was going on in the 1910s; I doubt the whole world was travelling in that boat, and I don't think people would be interested in discussing the UK and Germany's naval race while they were adrift in the lifeboats!
 

sharlin

Banned
Yeah it was a busy movie...and considering Camerons success with Aliens and Terminator II...its a shame to see a good director basically put a turd on the screen.
 
Easy, just give the film ONE main story and some more focus. The idea wasn't that bad. Sure, Silverstone wouldn't pass for a 1912 Philadelphian socialite in a million years and Cage looked like a creep with that stupid blonde whig and overacting as his idea of a horny 20-something, but they could have been more watchable if they actually got *more* screentime and their story and personalities were more fleshed out. Instead we had a bazillion side stories: Rose and Jack, Molly Brown, JJ Astor and his wife, the Strausses, that cameraman and his grilfriend in 1st class, the 2nd class priest, the birracial couple, the Italian and the Norwegian in steerage, the Syrians, Ismay, the Captain, Murdoch, Mooney, the butler with the other maid chick, the radio operators, the Irish coaler linked to Sinn Feinn, OH. Come. On. There was no way to keep track of so many characters and separate storylines. So what if a movie about the Titanic follows mostly a fictional couple's love story, like, say, the Italian and the Norwegian's, rather than trying to show (and follow!) as many historical people as possible. Less pandering to the Titanic buffs, more to the average moviegoer who all he knows about the Titanic is that it was a ship that sank, or not even that. And of course, less ambition and trying to showcase every single thing that was going on in the 1910s; I doubt the whole world was travelling in that boat, and I don't think people would be interested in discussing the UK and Germany's naval race while they were adrift in the lifeboats!

Yeah this is the problem with the movie, we have maybe twenty minutes being bombarded by a million different plot points, followed by ten minutes of random corridors. What the ef was Cameron doing with regards to the Camera crew?! It honestly feels like they were just wandering around the sets, in fact I think that was how this movie failed, no one was keeping tabs on the crew so they just bumped into things they were supposed to be filming before deciding "eh, this is boring" and wandering off. In the end Cameron was stuck with a big reel of nothing but he was out of money at this point so he handed it over and preemptively tried to drink himself to death.

Hey I just realized why it was realised in the winter, it was JC trying to save face.
 
Yeah it was a busy movie...and considering Camerons success with Aliens and Terminator II...its a shame to see a good director basically put a turd on the screen.

At least he made it up with Avatar, an epic thriller about humanity's relationship with a native species, and the battle between two men who are not so different, the insane "protector" of the natives Jake Sully and the gone native mad scientist Grace Augustine, and Quaritch the commander of the local garrison and Parker Selfridge the colonial administrator on the other.

Both sides represented a form of colonialism, the first was white man's burden particularly the new version and the whole mighty whitey cliche among other things. While the second was more coporate imperialism and neo imperialism, and of course the idea of democratic imperialism.

Both sides were portrayed in the wrong to a certain degree....

I shudder to think what he would have come up with if he didn't learn his lesson from Titanic.
 

sharlin

Banned
It could be good...as long as there's no love triangle or Phillips being portraied as an ignorant buffoon it could be alright....
 
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