DBWI: Irish "Slavery" and the War Between the States

There has been a great deal written lately of Irish "slavery" in the United States. Firstly, it should not need to be pointed out that slavery, as practised in Classical times or in the plantations of the Caribbean and Brazil, was abolished by the Founding Fathers in our great Constitution. The correct term as used by historians and scholars is "Life-long Inheritable Transferable Indenture".

The War Between the States which pitted the Confederacy of New England against the Union Aggressors was not sought by we in the North; we simply wished to preserve our own Anglo-Saxon Race and Culture (I would like to point out here that my own ancestors who fought for the noble Lost Cause were neither mill-owners nor holders of Contracts of Indenture).

We fought for States Rights- yes, the right to hold indentures, but also the right to set up tariffs to strengthen our great American Nation, as opposed to those in the Middle and South who would sell our heritage to Foreign Manufacturers.

There has been a great deal of vile slander written about the "peculiar institution" of indenture. Did we not deliver the Irish from their dreadful darkness and poverty? Did we not free them from the worship of idols and superstition, and lead them to the light of the True Protestant Religion?

Left to themselves, they were idle and shiftless, though much fond of singing and dancing- our uniquely American contribution to music derives from the Irish: "jizz" from the Irish jigs, and "ruck'n'reel" from the Irish reels, which would dissolve into often unseemly rucks of a low and lustful nature.

Being the nature of the Irish to lack self-discipline, it was often necessary to impose strict measures, but the slander of our foes is unwarranted. It was in the self-interest of the mill-owners to treat his indentured workers well; they represented a considerable investment. Compare that to the so-called "free" agricultural workers, especially on the plantations of the South- free to be mercilessly exploited by wage-slavery in the farming season, free to be ruthlessly cast aside when not needed, free to fester in the squalid camps inhabited by the dregs of Europe- Italians, Greeks, Slavs, and even, Lord help us, Africans!

A great deal of this misunderstanding is due to the pernicious influence of one best-selling book: "Uncle Paddy's Shanty" by Harriet Becher Stowe.
Stowe was a writer of considerable talent; thus her heart-rending scenes of families being torn apart as members were shipped "Up North" to the lumber camps of Maine and New Hampshire- where admittedly, conditions were harsher.

Or who can forget poor Bridget scrambling across the ice floes of the Hudson, fleeing New Hampshire to seek refuge in New York, hounds on her trail, clutching Baby Seamus to her breast?

Nevertheless, we reject the slanderous accusations of racism- why, some of my best friends are Celts- and glory in our Northern Heritage:

Oh, I wish I was in the Land where they weave cotton,
Far away, and not forgotten..."
 
OOC: That was brilliant! :D Heh, "Uncle Paddy's Shanty"... :p

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IC: Look, buddy, there's a reason flying the Confederate flag is against the law. No matter what you claim, it is and will forever represent a symbol of oppression and cruelty. And don't say there still isn't widespread racism in the North. On a trip to New Hampshire I frequently heard slurs like "Dogan", "Leprechaun", and others which I dare not repeat. And how do you explain the fact the fact that there are almost no Irish representatives in the North, even though they outnumber Anglos almost everywhere?
 
Look Imperator, nobody gives a crap about the Irish! England is gunning them down as we speak, and except for a few sob-stories on TV, nobody gives a flying turd! Like it or not, Irish are always going to get the shit end of the stick in this country, so you just come to terms that you're going to be in inferior positions for the rest of your life. Civil Rights leader Dr. John F. Kennedy should have realized that, and maybe he wouldn't have gotten assassinated.
 

NapoleonXIV

Banned
Very good, very, very good. As a first effort, especially so. You show great promise.

I really liked the "ruck and reel" business, and the way you changed it to an Irish version, but still kept the name and therefore the concept familiar, and did it in a believable way.
 
Look Imperator, nobody gives a crap about the Irish! England is gunning them down as we speak, and except for a few sob-stories on TV, nobody gives a flying turd! Like it or not, Irish are always going to get the shit end of the stick in this country, so you just come to terms that you're going to be in inferior positions for the rest of your life. Civil Rights leader Dr. John F. Kennedy should have realized that, and maybe he wouldn't have gotten assassinated.

What are you, a member of the AAA? I'm not Irish, and it reflects poorly on you to assume that only the Irish are against racism in our republic.
 

Straha

Banned
Ah yes, crazy nortenos. We were in the valley stateso f the US are a far cry from the anti-catholic nutcase bigots in new england.
 
Look, the problem isn't Irish, it's Catholicism- Protestant Irish are treated just like any Anglo-Saxon Protestant. But if you want to put all your loyalty to the Pope, then move to the Papal States. We don't need anyone who supports a foreign King over the US Constitution!
 
I'll be jiggered, my laddy, keep on a-talking like that, and ye'll be gettin' a Fenian bomb in yer mailbox, as St. Paddy's me witness.
 

Straha

Banned
I'll be jiggered, my laddy, keep on a-talking like that, and ye'll be gettin' a Fenian bomb in yer mailbox, as St. Paddy's me witness.

More proof that we should just withdraw US troops and let the yankees and dogans kill each other. No skin off of my back.
 
I'll be jiggered, my laddy, keep on a-talking like that, and ye'll be gettin' a Fenian bomb in yer mailbox, as St. Paddy's me witness.

More proof that we should just withdraw US troops and let the yankees and dogans kill each other. No skin off of my back.

Just further examples of intolerance and predominance of religion in US and New England society. Glad to be rid of you both.

SK
Great Lakes and Midwest Coalition
 

Straha

Banned
New England last I heard (well and that weird enclave up near Seattle)...nothing but us quiet German volk here in the Great Lakes and Midwest. :D

Like you germans aren't as bad as the yankees or dogans? Last time I checked you germans sure like lynching jews or russian americans or mexican americans moving north north of the "Low 7" states.
 
I'll be jiggered, my laddy, keep on a-talking like that, and ye'll be gettin' a Fenian bomb in yer mailbox, as St. Paddy's me witness.

Christ it's people like you that get people like me targetted by lynch mob. My family's Protestant Irish going back 200 years, free men out of Dublin, but idiots like you get the lynch mobs here in Seattle so pissed off that they target anyone with a name sounding remotely Irish. My last name is Scottish for christ's sake!

I hope that the feinian's all get caught by the government and hung from the highest telegraph pole...
 
Like you germans aren't as bad as the yankees or dogans? Last time I checked you germans sure like lynching jews or russian americans or mexican americans moving north north of the "Low 7" states.
Indeed, the Germans are quite racist... but what can you expect from a state whose ruling party has connections with those "National Socialist" whackos in Germany (and when the German Empire considers you a whacko, you have to know something's off- I remember when the NS folks launched the Vienna Bombings in '95 over the Austrian Empire's decision to extend full provincial rights to Croatia... And I was in Vienna that year on vacation too! Pretty scary.)
 
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