I actually think he was pretty good.
I mean, I'd probably think of him a lot like H.P. Lovecraft if he didn't actually get involved in politics as some batshit insane ultrafascist...
DBWI: Hitlerist Germany?
- Thread starter Scorpio Retindar
- Start date
I mean, I'd probably think of him a lot like H.P. Lovecraft if he didn't actually get involved in politics as some batshit insane ultrafascist...
considering how much Arabs hate Jews and vice versa, it would probably be worse. Especially when you take into account about the war crimes Israel committed in Mozambique.
FillyofDelphi
Banned
That's a bit of a generalization, and has alot more to do with traditional class relations in the generally poorer areas of the Arab world (Jews were far more likely to be wealthy property owners, and dident contribute to the broader community through their charities helping keep the money ethnically concentrated). Africans are by far the most anti-Semetic group nowadays. Though, let's be honest, there's not alot of love lost between them and ANYBODY.
Last edited:
The NSDAP had at least two representatives in the Reichstag all the way up to 1961,so if Hitler doesn’t leave Germany in 1920 to resume his art career.......
He could make a bid for leadership in 1933,but if it doesn’t turn out like Gregor Strasser’s I’ll eat my AH hat. Hermann Goring told the BBC in 1956 that he still thought ‘1933 would’ve been Adolf’s year’. Up until his 1967 death Josef Goebbels was saying the same thing. Remember,this was a guy who tried to implement the inclusion of ice detection experiments on the Mondvermesser 2 probe three years before he died.
He could make a bid for leadership in 1933,but if it doesn’t turn out like Gregor Strasser’s I’ll eat my AH hat. Hermann Goring told the BBC in 1956 that he still thought ‘1933 would’ve been Adolf’s year’. Up until his 1967 death Josef Goebbels was saying the same thing. Remember,this was a guy who tried to implement the inclusion of ice detection experiments on the Mondvermesser 2 probe three years before he died.
Last edited:
OOC: The POTUS thing isn't canon for this DBWI. The guy who posted that was just joking. Also, "Nazi" is a term that does not exist in this timeline, as they never got into power. Please edit.
That makes sense considering the fact that he was hired by the German Army to infiltrate the Nazi party.
FillyofDelphi
Banned
The poor African Hypernationalists. Africa For Africans/We was King's/Back to Eden? You have to have heard those political slogans
I think fundamentally the failure of men like Hitler and Trotski to seize power vs men like Stalin and Mussolini is due to the fact that ideologues by their nature are unable to politic at all. The true believers will almost always fall to the people willing to play the game to get what they want. Hitler didn't use the idea of a worldwide cabal of capitalist Jewish Bolsheviks (what?) secretly trying to destroy Germany by causing them to lose a two-front war after 4 years of intense casualties as a way to gin up the mob the way the other German Fascists some times did. He actually thought that such a thing was true. When you exist in a state so opposed to reality it's totally impossible to act as a political operative and find ways to play people in order to seize power. So if somehow Hitler gained power in Germany it wouldn't take long for him to manage to screw it up. For example, he most likely would start another war with the Entente if for another reason than unlike Germany's actual government at the time he wouldn't be willing to make compromises and pivot away from expansion when the other powers started eyeing him up.
So let me get this straight. This Hitler guy apparently thought that he could somehow seize power in a nation where fascist demagogues and far-right organizations are a dime a dozen. Then he planned to take back Germany's lost territory from countries whose territorial integrity were guaranteed by Britain and France, two of the most powerful countries in the world. Did he think Germany could actually defeat both Britain and France in a war? And then he apparently thought that he could also fight the Soviet Union and occupy it all the way to the Urals and somehow exterminate a large portion of its population to make room for German settlers? He seems so delusional that it's hard to believe people like him exist.
I mean would this kind of blind faith really be convincing enough for the German high command to even consider a conflict with the USSR of all countries. Honestly it's doubtful the French and British would have condoned him for long, as soon as he started making demands for things as his books outlined he'd have been pushed out by one faction or the other - be it the military, the democrats or the Entente.
If Hitler’s family stayed in Austria, then he would have never become President of America. Who knows? Maybe FDR could have been President. That would have given the Republicans the chance to dominate the south a generation later. People take the solid south for granted, but Hitler was essential in resolidifying the Solid South.
Guys, guys, this is not an Iron Eagle DBWI, the Hitler presidency is not canon for this DBWI, and I'm getting tired of repeating this. Please leave.
Wait you had to repeat this? I’m gonna check over the beginning of the thread.
I’m sorry, I did not read the begging (just saw the DBWI and the second page). Not saying it fully excuses it but understand ainwasnt attempting to troll you. I had no idea. Sorry.
It seems you only said it once and I without knowing the rules accidentally broke it. I don’t see like five attempts of people trolling and so you having to deal with that trolling are sick and tired of it. The please leave at the very end with all that is a bit too condescending for the situation imo, and so while I’m sorry that I broke the rules without realizing it (I should have checked the OP but I didn’t and just assumed I had free range like in many DWBIs) but if I mistakenly was the first guy to make the mistake, you could have just reminded me of the rules and said “don’t do it again otherwise you’re trolling”.
But, it’s more my fault for not checking the OP but I’ve rarely done that on DBWI’s I post on where there’s more than one page. It given how it wasn’t like there was a barrage of trolling, I personally felt that your reply was a bit much (not quite warranted). And once again, I did not mean to troll.
I probably overreacted, and I apologize. Still, I get the feeling that if I did not do something it would have continued, and I (probably foolishly) assumed that drastic measures had to be taken. I am sorry again for overreacting and would like to thank you for handling my overreaction so calmly.
FillyofDelphi
Banned
To be fair, the early stages of his demands were still well within the confines of the German right-wing and had sympathy among the various other nations so far as it concerned alterations to Versailles. Especially rectifications in Poland, which Stalin was keen to weaken. If he was at the head of a right-wing cohalition and STARTED will the Corridor, he could establish himself firmly in the seat of power as well as get a lesson I his limitations