DBWI: Hitler made chancellor

OOC: I always thought the Nazis were evil enough that if they didn't exist in real life you would think a movie version was exagerated.

I admit that he was more then a bit crazy but he did have quite a following before Roosevelt talked the Brits and the French into lowering their reperations payments in 1931. Could there be a way that he actually becomes the leader of Germany and what happens then?
 
The so-called "Nazi" were a bunch of incompetens thugs and Hitler himsafe was insanse (he ended up in psychiatrical hospital in 1948, didn't he?). They would destory Germany. Probably Oder would be Poland's western border :D
 
Oh, I don't know, these people were smart, and they got a growing percentage of the vote. I think they could've gone quite far if you didn't have that military coup. (Oh, Ambassador Roosevelt played his part, too, it was Hoover's smartest move to send him to Britain; not only did it neutralise him for the '32 elections, he also managed to broker that truce; but most of the credit for stopping the Nazis should go to the von Papen clique.)

One does wonder what they'd do, though; we know the military government picked up Austria and the Sudetenland, and negotiated Danzig with the Poles in return for the anti-Soviet alliance in '43. Would the Nazis have gone further? As I understood it, Hitler looked for new ground beyond German-speaking Central Europe. Might he have resurrected the old German colonial ambition, causing tensions with Britain?
 
I've never heard of this guy before, a quick bit of reading about him though and...wow, he seems nuts.
We could well have gotten WW2 starting in the 30s with that guy in charge- Britain wouldn't have been ready to fight then though, it wasn't until Chamberlain took over that Britain began to rearm...Could he do it fast enough though?
And what of France? I don't think they would be up to fighting a war in their own territory- blowing up half of Poland was fine to the French public but France itself?

What disturbs me is the thought of regular air battles over Britain. Sure the Soviets managed to launch a few sneak bombing raids to try and bring down British morale but if it was Germany we were fighting and not Russia they'd be a lot closer...
Assuming of course that Germany actually does have an air force.
 
Oh, I don't know, these people were smart, and they got a growing percentage of the vote. I think they could've gone quite far if you didn't have that military coup. (Oh, Ambassador Roosevelt played his part, too, it was Hoover's smartest move to send him to Britain; not only did it neutralise him for the '32 elections, he also managed to broker that truce; but most of the credit for stopping the Nazis should go to the von Papen clique.)

One does wonder what they'd do, though; we know the military government picked up Austria and the Sudetenland, and negotiated Danzig with the Poles in return for the anti-Soviet alliance in '43. Would the Nazis have gone further? As I understood it, Hitler looked for new ground beyond German-speaking Central Europe. Might he have resurrected the old German colonial ambition, causing tensions with Britain?

OOC: Damn I feel stupid, Roosevelt was elected in 1932. Oh well, I originally was going to make it 1933 but figured it was too late and moved it back without changing presidents.
 
Unfortunately this action served to open the country to Soviet influence. Remember that by 1942, Rosa Luxembourg and Karl Liebknicht has both the financial and political backing of Stalin's government. Their actions served to launch the German Civil War until 1945, and the invasion of Western Europe by 1948....
 
True, it took until 1949 for the Soviets got pushed out of Western Europe and until 1951 for Stalin to get overthrown which set off a second Russian Civil War that lasted until 1960.
 
Well, the betrayal of Germany by Liebknicht and Luxembourg shows that you can't trust the Jews in any field. Jews were behind the assassination of Huey Long in 1936, the assassination of George Wallace in 1972, and the 2000 Millenium bombings in Los Angeles. Russian President Zhiriniovsky maybe extreme, but he certainly has a point banning Jews from the military, and labelling them a "criminal class"....

OOC: Without Hitler and the Holocaust, the cause of anti-Semitism wouldn't have been discredited.
 
Who is this Wallace guy? Constintine Zhiriniovsky is a drunken fool and I am glad the presidency of Russia has little power and Prime Minister Vladamir Yelstin is the one with the real power.

OOC: Wallace and Zhiriniovsky would have been butterflied away.
 
Who is this Wallace guy? Constintine Zhiriniovsky is a drunken fool and I am glad the presidency of Russia has little power and Prime Minister Vladamir Yelstin is the one with the real power.

OOC: Wallace and Zhiriniovsky would have been butterflied away.

OOC: I'm not so sure about them being butterflied away. Wallace was born before 1933, and was actually active in local politics prior to World War II. As such, Wallace would certainly still exist in one form or another. As for Zhirinovsky, I will just cite the "Turtledove rule" wherein historical figures can pop out, years after the POD.

IC: Wallace led the famous "State's Rights" rallies throughout the South, wherein Jews, suspected Communists, African-Americans, and feminists were subjected to "mock-trials" and were often subject to "citizen justice" (OOC:lynchings) until he was shot in 1972. This is yet another sign that the Jews control American politics....
 
OOC: I'm not so sure about them being butterflied away. Wallace was born before 1933, and was actually active in local politics prior to World War II. As such, Wallace would certainly still exist in one form or another. As for Zhirinovsky, I will just cite the "Turtledove rule" wherein historical figures can pop out, years after the POD.

IC: Wallace led the famous "State's Rights" rallies throughout the South, wherein Jews, suspected Communists, African-Americans, and feminists were subjected to "mock-trials" and were often subject to "citizen justice" (OOC:lynchings) until he was shot in 1972. This is yet another sign that the Jews control American politics....

OOC: Wallace would be a far different person if history was far different. The same thing goes for the Russian.

IC: Never heard of him, he sounds like someone who never be missed. Mock trials and lynchings are not things people should be doing.
 
OOC: Wallace would be a far different person if history was far different. The same thing goes for the Russian.

IC: Never heard of him, he sounds like someone who never be missed. Mock trials and lynchings are not things people should be doing.

Yeah, the "Jewish Theory" was discredited in the 50's and 60's, when Martin Luther King started his rise.
 
Well, the betrayal of Germany by Liebknicht and Luxembourg shows that you can't trust the Jews in any field. Jews were behind the assassination of Huey Long in 1936, the assassination of George Wallace in 1972, and the 2000 Millenium bombings in Los Angeles. Russian President Zhiriniovsky maybe extreme, but he certainly has a point banning Jews from the military, and labelling them a "criminal class"....

OOC: Without Hitler and the Holocaust, the cause of anti-Semitism wouldn't have been discredited.


If Hitler had become chancellor, and acted on his plans for wiping out the European Jews, there is a good chance that the State of Israel might not exist today. The entire support base for the Zionist movement was based in Europe.
 
Yeah, the "Jewish Theory" was discredited in the 50's and 60's, when Martin Luther King started his rise.
Good Grief!!! You guys will believe any Soviet-backed propaganda that is spoon-fed to you. Prior to his death in 1964, FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover had proved that the beloved minister was actually a womanizer who was caught on tape, along with a Communist sympathizer who, along with President Eugene McCarthy served to betray the greatness this country had....

Why do you think McCarthy "lost Poland and Eastern Germany" in 1961 to the resurgent forces of Premier Lavrentii Beria, after the Second Russian Civil War? King was a Soviet pawn created to sow dissent amongst the Negroes!!!
 
Good Grief!!! You guys will believe any Soviet-backed propaganda that is spoon-fed to you. Prior to his death in 1964, FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover had proved that the beloved minister was actually a womanizer who was caught on tape, along with a Communist sympathizer who, along with President Eugene McCarthy served to betray the greatness this country had....

Why do you think McCarthy "lost Poland and Eastern Germany" in 1961 to the resurgent forces of Premier Lavrentii Beria, after the Second Russian Civil War? King was a Soviet pawn created to sow dissent amongst the Negroes!!!

Oh, for the love of God, you are really shooting blanks, aren't you... Womanizer, sure. But this was the same King who lambasted the Communists as "just as bad as segregationists". He was a civil-rights activist, but he was a moderate.
 
True enough. OOC I think he is trying to show how racism and anti-Semitism would have gone on quite a bit longer without the Nazis and I think he is correct there. Nazism was so extremely racist that racism started to lose respectability.
 
True enough. OOC I think he is trying to show how racism and anti-Semitism would have gone on quite a bit longer without the Nazis and I think he is correct there. Nazism was so extremely racist that racism started to lose respectability.

OOC: I certainly believe that Nazism helped discredit Eugenics, Racism, and Anti-Semitism. Just consider that at U.C. Berkeley, considered one of the bastions of American liberalism, many of the science buildings were named for scientists who backed the American Eugenics Movement....
 
Nazism actually made racism worse indirectly- WW2 caused the mass influx of people from around the world to a Europe short on labour.
When there were just a few black people around there wasn't much of a problem. Once they started taking over neighbourhoods and all that though racism began to spread.
 
IC: Yeah, there's a slight chance that that Hitler fellow would've come to power, if the rest of Europe hadn't agreed to decrease the severity of it's reperation demands upon Germany. It saved the Germany economy during that "Recession" period of the 30's. Man... was THAT a close one.

But in the end, little Adolf wouldn't have been able to do anything, what with guys like Chamberlain there, they would've stopped him from his mad ambitions and talk of a "master race," whatever the f*** that was all about.

Oh and King was a freakin' womanizer and communist pig-dog.
 
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