DBWI: Hitler commits suicide?

Shortly before his execution at Nuremburg, Adolf Hitler confided to his wife, Eva Braun, that he'd rather have committed suicide with her than to be executed.

What if he had committed suicide with his wife? Would there be any effects to future War Crime and Crimes against Humanity trials? would there be any, if all, effects on pop culture? Would the war in Europe still end the same way?
 
The Film the flight of Adolf Hitler would have never been made. The Moment when those British Paratroopers caught him on May the 9th is really good in the film.
 
Well, the amount of Neo-Nazis are going to be considerably lower, for starters.

Hitler, although an absolute monster in our eyes, became a martyr because of that execution. And with a lower amount, we may not have ever seen a version of the Jerusalem attacks. And we know how bad January 1st of 1973 went. :(
 
Well, the amount of Neo-Nazis are going to be considerably lower, for starters.(

Especially true, when you realize how big of a figure Eva Braun became for the Neo-Nazis, even though she actually did oppose the concentration camps and the ghettoes later on. She was a very complicated person, even more so than her close friend, Eva Peron.
 
If Hitler committed suicide it's likely Martin Bormann would have become the new Führer.

There might be a short power struggle, but it wouldn't really matter since Allied Victory was inevitable.
 
If he committed suicide,we wouldn't have been able to see all the angry rants caught on film that Hitler had between his trial and just before his execution!Youtube would have been a much boring place.
 
Well, the amount of Neo-Nazis are going to be considerably lower, for starters.

Hitler, although an absolute monster in our eyes, became a martyr because of that execution. And with a lower amount, we may not have ever seen a version of the Jerusalem attacks. And we know how bad January 1st of 1973 went. :(

Yeah, it could butterfly away the attacks, the Ramadan war later that year after the Israelis found links between the terrorists and the Syrian and Egyptian governments, and the resulting oil embargo.
 

ThePest179

Banned
Yeah, it could butterfly away the attacks, the Ramadan war later that year after the Israelis found links between the terrorists and the Syrian and Egyptian governments, and the resulting oil embargo.

And maybe Israel would have given up some of the territory they took from the Arabs. Maybe.

Race-relations might be better in the US too. Without Hitler as a martyr the American Nazi Party wouldn't have as many members as it did during the Sixties and even today.
 
Especially true, when you realize how big of a figure Eva Braun became for the Neo-Nazis, even though she actually did oppose the concentration camps and the ghettoes later on. She was a very complicated person, even more so than her close friend, Eva Peron.

It always amased me how she could escape with nothing more then a slap on the wrist, when Magda Goebbels hanged with the rest of them.
 
It always amased me how she could escape with nothing more then a slap on the wrist, when Magda Goebbels hanged with the rest of them.

Braun didn't have any involvement with everything IIRC, Hitler cut her off from the whole thing and didn't even tell most people outside of his immediate and closest circle that she even existed; so she really wasn't guilty of anything persay outside of having sex with Adolf Hitler.
 

shiftygiant

Gone Fishin'
Well, for starters, we wouldn't have faced such a strong resistance in the post-occupation. The Armed Forces were pretty much bound to keep fighting until Hitler died, so if he was dead then they would have been allowed to give up. With Hitler dead, Berlin would still retain buildings from before 1945. The Soviet's manhunt pretty much destroyed Berlin and reduced it to a fifth of it's size, so with him dead Berlin will live on (Although still damaged). Goebbels would have become Chancellor, Bormann President, and no doubt the invasion of Jutland would have been avoided.
 

ThePest179

Banned
It's a bit much to say that she killed herself, but she certainly didn't do herself any favors with the unrepentant ranting at her trial.

I think it was obvious she wanted to die. It was like the trial of that one low level Nazi who spouted out so much anti-Semetic crap at his trial that he got a death sentence when he could have gotten off easy*.

*OOC: This actually happened IOTL.
 
Yeah, it could butterfly away the attacks, the Ramadan war later that year after the Israelis found links between the terrorists and the Syrian and Egyptian governments, and the resulting oil embargo.

And the horrors.....even today, the amount of retribution Israel threw at Syria is both mind-boggling and squick-inducing.

However, I don't think that the relations between Israel and Syria would change. It was only a matter of time before the Levant lit up.
 
And the horrors.....even today, the amount of retribution Israel threw at Syria is both mind-boggling and squick-inducing.

However, I don't think that the relations between Israel and Syria would change. It was only a matter of time before the Levant lit up.

It didn't help when the Shah threw his lot in with the Syrians. That war was the end of Israel; the Israeli retribution alienated pretty much everyone. to even President Kennedy would support Israel after their chemical and nuclear attack against Syrian cities.
 
It didn't help when the Shah threw his lot in with the Syrians. That war was the end of Israel; the Israeli retribution alienated pretty much everyone. to even President Kennedy would support Israel after their chemical and nuclear attack against Syrian cities.

OOC: Nuclear attacks are a bit much don't you think? Chemical, maybe.
 
It didn't help when the Shah threw his lot in with the Syrians. That war was the end of Israel; the Israeli retribution alienated pretty much everyone. to even President Kennedy would support Israel after their chemical and nuclear attack against Syrian cities.

Indeed, Kennedy's inaction in the face of the occupation of Israel and wholesale genocide of its population resulted in the political radicalization of America's Jews.
 
It's a bit much to say that she killed herself, but she certainly didn't do herself any favors with the unrepentant ranting at her trial.

Madga killed her own children in Bavaria just before being captured by the Americans. She also attacked an Army doctor while being examined in captivity.Because she was Mrs. Goebbels Eisenhower made the decision to have her tried in Public in Nuremberg. If Patton had not been killed in that accident he was going to have her tried and executed right away. That was something else Ike and Patton clashed over at the end.
 
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