DBWI: Have Germany not be the world's main superpower

[CaliGuy]

Well he did a few erotic movies in his early days.

Also in his later days. Indeed, his late-life erotic movies are simply less talked about than his early-life erotic movies are. Heck, my favorite one is Barbarossa--specifically about a woman with a big, fluffy, hairy red bush down there! Of course, another favorite one is Kristallnacht--where these cute erotic dancers wear crystal-like outfits which they take off before they have sex with sexy schoolgirls! That's right--Kristallnacht is hardcore lesbian erotica!

Though his best were the non erotic ones, especially the ones about the Teutonic knights. Which pretty grandiose by the standards of the time.

Yep--in addition to his eroticism, Hitler was also a big fan of the concept of Lebensraum and thus made several Ostsiedlung-themed movies. He also bought a home in Riga, Latvia in order to personally become a new German pioneer in the East.

 

[addd]

What would happen to famous animators such as the American-born Walt Disney, the Polish Warner Bros. (Who settled in the US, but later moved back to their hometown in German Poland), and the Austrian Fleischer Bros., who later emigrated to Germany after its movie industry kicked off?
Who would be the leader of the gaming industry ITTL? (Otl Germany definitely isn't, imho)

 

[CaliGuy]

Of course, another favorite one is Kristallnacht--where these cute erotic dancers wear crystal-like outfits which they take off before they have sex with sexy schoolgirls! That's right--Kristallnacht is hardcore lesbian erotica!

Here is a promotional photo for Kristallnacht :

http://www1.pictures.livingly.com/it/Valentin+Yudashkin+Fall+2013+Details+GjyqusS30bxx.jpg

P.S.: This looks really bad when it's out of context!

 

[CaliGuy]

Who would be the leader of the gaming industry ITTL? (Otl Hermany definitely isn't, imho)

Probably the U.S. or Japan--with Korea being the world king in dancing.

 

[addd]

Probably the U.S. or Japan--with Korea being the world king in dancing.

 

[CaliGuy]

Dude, when Pyongyang is liberated, I so want to dance the night away over there!

Pyongyang ... The City That Never Sleeps!

 

[dandan_noodles]

In terms of the Entente winning the World War, you'd want France to have a stronger ally than Russia. After they were utterly prostrated in 1916, there really was no hope for France to stand up to the German steamroller; when Heersgruppe Mackensen transferred west for Operation Blücher, the only question was when the French line would be shattered. This only got worse when Italy joined (rather opportunistically, perhaps to mitigate German and Austrian anger over their previous neutrality despite the Triple Alliance). It'd be interesting to see Europe dominated by France instead of Germany, for sure.

 

[ennobee]

This might be a POD from before 1900, but it lingered on until at least the 1920's: Next to the Ural, Germany always had a fascination with the New World, especially the United States. Unfortunately at that time US sentiment was really nativist and put in place all kinds of restrictions for immigrants not coming from the English commonwealth. The result is known: With the brightest heads in Britain all eventually moving to the US, the latter surpassed the former in industry, science and even culture within 50 years.

But what if for some reason the US was as welcoming to immigrants from the German speaking world as it was to the ones from the English-speaking world OTL. Reading through some biographies I recall that the fathers of Wilhelm Boeing, Friederich Trump, Johan Nortrupp and Jonas Weissmüller all at one point tried to emigrate but had their US visas denied for blatantly spurrious reasons. The same thing happened to the grandfathers of two of Germany's greatest military leaders: Eisenhauer and Niemitz.

So imagine if the US would have allowed them all in,even if as a cowboy in the Far West, none if them would have risen to their OTL status, Just the brain-drain on Germany would be considerable....

 

[pattontank12]

Yep--in addition to his eroticism, Hitler was also a big fan of the concept of Lebensraum and thus made several Ostsiedlung-themed movies. He also bought a home in Riga, Latvia in order to personally become a new German pioneer in the East.

Yeah Hitler may have been more than a little 'eccentric' but you have to admit he did some great historical epics. Such has the one on Frederick the Great or the one on the Franco-Prussian war. Though he was a bit to "enthusiastic" about his support on the settlement of German MittelAfrika by Germanic settlers.

You have to admit the Germans did a great job on turning MittelAfrika into a series of prosperous and developed Imperial Dominions.

 

[Whiteshore]

So, what do you think was why Germany won the Great War? Better leadership? Less internal strife than their enemies? Both?

 

[ajdb0614]

So, what do you think was why Germany won the Great War? Better leadership? Less internal strife than their enemies? Both?

Everyone else got tired of the war and quit earlier than Germany. When you think about it, the great war was all about attrition. The Germans simply lost the least.

 

[Wallet]

Good thing it wasn't just the Kaiser's victory, but Germany's victory, and Austria-Hungary's victory, and Bulgaria's victory, and the Ottoman Empire's victory, and do I need to go on?

Did Austria-Hungry and the Ottoman Empire really win though? Practically months after the end of fighting you have the collapse of the A-H empire. Germany annexing Austria and Hungry becoming a German puppet state. The Ottomans collapsed a few years later. Sure, Turkey did get a huge chunk of Russia but lost their Arab regions. I know some will argue with me, but the Arab republics of Palestine, Iraq, and Arabia were all basically German colonies. Why else did the Germans maintain troops there until the 90s???? Got to keep the oil flowing.

Maybe prevent the European Union?

 

[Whiteshore]

Everyone else got tired of the war and quit earlier than Germany. When you think about it, the great war was all about attrition. The Germans simply lost the least.

Well, for France and Russia, it was more like they had revolutions to deal with at home.

 

[CaliGuy]

Yeah Hitler may have been more than a little 'eccentric' but you have to admit he did some great historical epics. Such has the one on Frederick the Great

That one was very homoerotic, though.

or the one on the Franco-Prussian war.

Yeah, that one was certainly good.

Though he was a bit to "enthusiastic" about his support on the settlement of German MittelAfrika by Germanic settlers.

True; however, Mittelafrika was always a pale shadow of Eastern Europe for him. Indeed, that's why he bought a house in Riga rather than in Dar es Salaam.

You have to admit the Germans did a great job on turning MittelAfrika into a series of prosperous and developed Imperial Dominions.

Yeah, but that was more due to them teaching the Africans how to properly manage a country as opposed to it being a result of German immigration to Africa.

 

[Whiteshore]

So, what do you think caused the Russian and (Second) French Revolutions? Exhaustion from the war? Left-wing revolutionary sentiments bubbling up? A mixture of the two?

 

[SactoMan101]

An interesting aspect of Germany being #1 is that it changed transportation in Japan.

How? Because Japan up until 1923 drove vehicles on the left side of the road (similar to Great Britain). But at German insistence--especially after the Great Kanto Earthquake--Japan began a two-year project in 1924 to change to drive on the right side of the road. That's why in 2017, not only do the Japanese drive on the right side of the road (like most of the world), but their trains--including the 300+ km/h Shinkansen "bullet train"--run on the right side tracks, too.

 

[GDIS Pathe]

So, what do you think caused the Russian and (Second) French Revolutions? Exhaustion from the war? Left-wing revolutionary sentiments bubbling up? A mixture of the two?

exhaustion that's it the French army mutinied so did the Russian desertion rates were at an all-time high somewhere in the vein of 40% It was a miracle the third republic managed to hold on to power. not so much for the tsar though the provisional government had the sense to make peace with the Germans and had enough influence to put down Lenin.

 

[Decius00009]

To answer the question, if Wilhelm III had continued his father's nut job policies. Sidelining the navalists and funnelling the saved money into social programs gave the young Kaiser the popular support to allow for a referendum in Alsace/Lorraine which reverted to France. Taking the sting out of French revanchism allowed the Franco-German army to intervene in Russia in 1919, and dominate what was left, allowing the reemergence of Poland as an independent, albeit client state. After Austria Hungary collapsed, the French and Germans grew even closer. It's actually more appropriate to think of it as the Franco-German superpower, but because Germany is the senior partner, they only speak of them

 

[Whiteshore]

not so much for the tsar though the provisional government had the sense to make peace with the Germans and had enough influence to put down Lenin.

Yea, the Russian Revolution could have gotten more radical if Kerensky didn't sue for peace/

 

[GDIS Pathe]

To answer the question, if Wilhelm III had continued his father's nut job policies. Sidelining the navalists and funnelling the saved money into social programs gave the young Kaiser the popular support to allow for a referendum in Alsace/Lorraine which reverted to France. Taking the sting out of French revanchism allowed the Franco-German army to intervene in Russia in 1919, and dominate what was left, allowing the reemergence of Poland as an independent, albeit client state. After Austria Hungary collapsed, the French and Germans grew even closer. It's actually more appropriate to think of it as the Franco-German superpower, but because Germany is the senior partner, they only speak of them

It's what brought Wilhelm III into the ranks of some of the greatest statesmen in history into the same halls as Otto Von Bismarck and Catherine the great