DBWI: Have Europe be the center of the modern world

I wonder what the Eastlands might look like in a European-dominated world, with colonies centered on the eastern coast instead of the west?
 
Let's stop being politically correct guys. We all know that Europeans have had different evolutionary pressures and simply aren't very intelligent. IQ tests prove this as does the result of their "civilizations". They make some contributions to culture here and there, but little else. The only reason they get talked about so much is because people fetishize them (in particular the Northern ones [most savage of all] with the strange hair and eye colors and insane height and large breasts) and because they keep overpopulating the Earth (exporting immigrants, requiring constant aid money and resources in the process).

A civilization with an average IQ of 85 isn't going to get far. No continent has a future this dim. Even Antarctica has a small tourist city now.
 
Or provide Europe with an ideological base of reaching for knowledge.

If there is one thing that unites Bharat, Zhongguo, and the Dar-al-Islam above all, it is their under-current of... not philosophy, but a certain drive of learning new things, and having an educated class that examines those new things. Despite all the coups, wars, censures, and empire break-ups, the three regions always had tradition for having a learned class of people that tries to tinker with what they had.

Zhongguo has their Confucian mandarins, Bharat has their mathematicians, and Islamic cities like Cordoba and Esfahan have their clerical polymaths. All three regions have a class of learned men that learned new things, and what's more, all three regions have an... undercurrent of reaching for knowledge. Wasn't there one Arabic figure whom said: "Seek knowledge, even if it leads you to Nippon." ?

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That is more current history than a consistent historical trend. The Mandarins of 200 years ago were quite restricted by a stagnated education that was more ritual than education, ie: the Eight Legged Essay. The thinkers of the Islamic world were stagnated for a number of centuries by a sort of complacency & a idea that the analysis or interpretation of human knowledge was 'closed'. In both cases the stagnation was shattered by the industrial revolution of the last two centuries & the use of far more dynamic education systems.

But over the past millenium both the Islamic world and the 'Middle Kingdom' have had a consistent productive relationship between the ruler aristocracies and the clerical administrative classes. Didnt matter if the educated/administrative classes were dynamic of stagnated there was more often that not a much better relationship than between the Catholic monks and priests and the European warrior aristocracy
 

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So, why do you think was the Rhomanian Empire able to industrialize while the rest of Europe didn't?
Well it's neighboring of Dar-al Islam allowed it to prosper with constant trade with the greater nation. Culture and commerce allowed Rhomania to prosper. Rhomania also had a Imperial Bureaucracy and centralized government, instead of a feudal organization like so many nations in Europe.

For those reasons, Rhomania managed to industrialize at a normal pace, instead of stagnating like many other nations in Europe. Today, however, it's own economy is on decline. it's more of a junior partner of Dar-al Islam. It's industry has arleady been surpassed by wolf economies like England(by the great one, "made in england" is so common today it has become a jest), and Aquitane. Also Venetia has managed to combine it's prosperous trade power with a ever growing number of Factories. Only it's size impedes it from becoming a large industrial power.

Furthermore, other wolf nations like Serbia and Bulgaria pose a real threat to Rhomania. If they stopped threatening each other, and worked together, they could propbably take all of the european side of the Empire. Of course, that would be horrible to the historical lands of Hellas. Better our civilized western friends there then barbarians.
 
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