DBWI Germans break through in 1940

Wish I had bookmarked some of the other threads on this subject. The idea that a decisive victory could have been had through a 'break through' is controversial. The arguments on both sides are complex and the historical evidence is ambigious at the least. Tactically the Germans had many spectacular successes, operationally the campaign was a close run thing. Stratigically it was a failure for Germany. How that might have been reversed is where the arguments start. One school, which includes the historian John Ellis, believes that even had France been knocked out of the war the result would have still not been the strategic success the nazi regime needed. Britain must seek peace as well, & that is another unsettled argument.
 
Wish I had bookmarked some of the other threads on this subject. The idea that a decisive victory could have been had through a 'break through' is controversial. The arguments on both sides are complex and the historical evidence is ambigious at the least. Tactically the Germans had many spectacular successes, operationally the campaign was a close run thing. Stratigically it was a failure for Germany. How that might have been reversed is where the arguments start. One school, which includes the historian John Ellis, believes that even had France been knocked out of the war the result would have still not been the strategic success the nazi regime needed. Britain must seek peace as well, & that is another unsettled argument.

IF Germany had "knocked" out France in MID 1940 somehow then France (and Britain) would not bomb the BAKU oilfields.
The Soviet Union would not declare war on France and Britain. THus no "almost unlimited" Soldiers, workers and raw materials for the Germano-Soviet War machine

The Nazis would probably turn on the Soviets sooner or later instead of dividing the world between them (and the US in the Americas)
 

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What would have happened if the Germans had broken through in 1940 and occupied all of France?
Did only I happened to see a leap of logic here?
Winning one battle doesn't mean that France falters, like the Great War taught us. Germans visit Flanders again. However it might push Mussolini (who at that time was still sitting on the fence) to declare on Nazi side.
 
... THus no "almost unlimited" Soldiers, workers and raw materials for the Germano-Soviet War machine

The 'unlimited soldiers' is more theoretical than proven. The threat certainly was part of France & Britains calculation in negotiating a peace with the Axis. While some token Red Army & Air Forces appeared in the west we know now Hitler was loathe to actually allow them in German interest regions. The catastrophic Soviet invasion of Persia demonstrated the threat was real in the long term, but the Red Army has severe leadership, training, and logistical issues to overcome in the shorter term.
 
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The Nazis would probably turn on the Soviets sooner or later ...

The nazi leaders certain talked a lot about that. Given the sorry state of the Red Army in those years Germany might have gained some major concessions and territorial gains from the USSR. The Baltics, the rest of Poland, perhaps Beylorus and a slice of the Urkraine may have become part of the German sphere after a German Soviet war.
 
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