DBWI: Germanic peoples survive

Doesn't matter. The Moonmen arrival negates all potential Aboriginal life.

That's a weird way to spell Maƕnmanic.

Aside from the weird spelling the above poster is right. The Germanic peoples would have likely spread westwards and southwards once they checked the Slavs, completely overrunning the Maƕnmanic peoples and getting rid of the black sheep of the Indo-European languages, which falls in neither centum nor satem but completely eschews the sibilant 's' in any meaningful way. And without the Maƕnmanic languages and their substantial Old European substrates we would have no knowledge of the Tyrrhenian languages such as Etruscan and Rhaelian.

So good thing them Germanics got relegated to Scandinavia and that one outpost in the Crimea or we might have been completely ignorant about Old European history.
 
That's a weird way to spell Maƕnmanic.

Aside from the weird spelling the above poster is right. The Germanic peoples would have likely spread westwards and southwards once they checked the Slavs, completely overrunning the Maƕnmanic peoples and getting rid of the black sheep of the Indo-European languages, which falls in neither centum nor satem but completely eschews the sibilant 's' in any meaningful way. And without the Maƕnmanic languages and their substantial Old European substrates we would have no knowledge of the Tyrrhenian languages such as Etruscan and Rhaelian.

So good thing them Germanics got relegated to Scandinavia and that one outpost in the Crimea or we might have been completely ignorant about Old European history.
All interesting ideas.
Is it accurate to call the Crimean's Germanic though?
I mean yes their language is derivative of the old Germanic dialects that went extinct in the 4th century, but it's been so heavily Tartarized and Hellenized that it sounds nothing like the scandinavian dialects.
 
Any experts here have any insights to this Germanic culture? Typical early agricultural & preliterate subsistence farmers and warrior bands? Was their religion or culture anything like the Celtic groups that inhabit the western littorals of Europe? Or closer to the Slavs of the eastern regions? What little we know of them is handed down by the Etruscan empires propagandists. We know how biased they were.
 
Any experts here have any insights to this Germanic culture? Typical early agricultural & preliterate subsistence farmers and warrior bands? Was their religion or culture anything like the Celtic groups that inhabit the western littorals of Europe? Or closer to the Slavs of the eastern regions? What little we know of them is handed down by the Etruscan empires propagandists. We know how biased they were.
I am not overly certain as said Etruscan and Celtic records are the only known records we have that have been accurately translated, though what little we do know is that they were polytheistic in nature and had a reverence for axes and the oak tree.
 
the Maƕnmanic peoples and getting rid of the black sheep of the Indo-European languages, which falls in neither centum nor satem but completely eschews the sibilant 's' in any meaningful way

OOC: is this a thing OTL? If not, it needs to be
 
They loved Hercules more than any other gods and they thought Mercury was the king of the gods. One of the Greek philosophers said that. I'd say their religion was probably very much like Etruscan and Greek religion.
 
They loved Hercules more than any other gods and they thought Mercury was the king of the gods. One of the Greek philosophers said that. I'd say their religion was probably very much like Etruscan and Greek religion.
Wasn't that mostly with the Germanics who settled in the Alps though?
 
They loved Hercules more than any other gods and they thought Mercury was the king of the gods. One of the Greek philosophers said that. I'd say their religion was probably very much like Etruscan and Greek religion.
Don't forget that there are still a few Germanics today in Scandia. There are traces of Old Septentrial religion in the way the Scandii practice Scythio-Zoroastrianism. IIRC, they don't even believe in the Demiurge.
 
All interesting ideas.
Is it accurate to call the Crimean's Germanic though?
I mean yes their language is derivative of the old Germanic dialects that went extinct in the 4th century, but it's been so heavily Tartarized and Hellenized that it sounds nothing like the scandinavian dialects.

You’re right but I still find it how interestingly the tongue has adapted. The language contains over 60% loanwords from various Hellenic dialects and Tatar but from what little we know of old Germanic syntax they retained the SOV word order as well as the þ. Also most Crimean nouns to this day betray their origin no matter the amount of Hellenization the language has undergone. You only need to look at hit movie star þaqireqs Sqrahos’ name.

Despite the obviously Germanicized first part of the heavily Indo-European tradition of dual names, þaqir, is of Turkic origin the second part reqs, is descended from the Germanic reikoz.

Any experts here have any insights to this Germanic culture? Typical early agricultural & preliterate subsistence farmers and warrior bands? Was their religion or culture anything like the Celtic groups that inhabit the western littorals of Europe? Or closer to the Slavs of the eastern regions? What little we know of them is handed down by the Etruscan empires propagandists. We know how biased they were.

While a lot of the Etruscan writers were biased Rasce Catharnai during his Gallic campaigns actually speaks of a tribe of hilbankmann as the Maƕnman-Gallic tribe, the Belgna, called them. These supposed woodsmen were extremely fierce, wore their hair in knots and used to practice haruspicy (occasionally even with human captives) before giant oak trees they would carve into the shape of hammers.

Catharnai’s Malena Hilebasnna on these Germans is as unbiased a report as one can expect from a pre-modern historiographer. He even goes to great lengths to make sure that their speech and words are translated and recorded in the hopes of taking a few back to Tarkuna with him as an honour guard due to their ferocity and resolve.

OOC: is this a thing OTL? If not, it needs to be

OOC: Nah made it up. But a ‘hadem’ language like this would be ‘huper’ cool
 
The Germanic peoples would have likely spread westwards and southwards once they checked the Slavs, completely overrunning the Maƕnmanic peoples and getting rid of the black sheep of the Indo-European languages, which falls in neither centum nor satem but completely eschews the sibilant 's' in any meaningful way.

Meh, that's a bit of an oversimplification. Maƕnmanic is satem, the s just later turned into an h like in the (centum) Greek.

I don't think Germanic languages were ever big enough to dominate an entire region of Europe. It's a miracle they didn't go completely extinct like Italic. Although I suppose you could get a global Germanic empire (I mean, aside from the Grand Duchy of Germania's foray into the Penobscot Bay) if Germanics had managed to take hold in the British Isles.
 
Meh, that's a bit of an oversimplification. Maƕnmanic is satem, the s just later turned into an h like in the (centum) Greek.

I don't think Germanic languages were ever big enough to dominate an entire region of Europe. It's a miracle they didn't go completely extinct like Italic. Although I suppose you could get a global Germanic empire (I mean, aside from the Grand Duchy of Germania's foray into the Penobscot Bay) if Germanics had managed to take hold in the British Isles.

That's only according to Randure Caicna's theories and we all know that the majority of Raχnna historiographers and linguists are biased and just use that to justify why they were one of the few Indo-European groups they were unable to defeat.

Also Italic isn't extinct, not yet atleast. There are atleast five mountain towns in Oχnava (OOC: Campania and Western Apulia) that speak a bastardised Oscan tongue.
 
Also Italic isn't extinct, not yet atleast. There are atleast five mountain towns in Oχnava (OOC: Campania and Western Apulia) that speak a bastardised Oscan tongue.

OK, I was getting a little ahead of myself, but given how nationalistic the current Oχnavian regime is, I think the clock is ticking sadly. Although, checking Wikipedia, there appears to be a small but significant Oscan immigrant community in China, so maybe the language can live on there.
 
OK, I was getting a little ahead of myself, but given how nationalistic the current Oχnavian regime is, I think the clock is ticking sadly. Although, checking Wikipedia, there appears to be a small but significant Oscan immigrant community in China, so maybe the language can live on there.

Yeah it’s kinda sad how following the last Italiote Rebellion in 1866 almost all of the old Italian states except the Free State of Sirakouse have given in to Etruscan revisionism and we see the destruction of the heritage of all the old Italic and Hellenic monuments of the Italian peninsula.
 
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