DBWI: German Reich ("Weimar Republic") general election, 2009

Which list do you vote for to compose the Reichstag?

  • List 1: SPD (Social Democrats)

    Votes: 33 25.8%
  • List 2: CNBPD (Agrarians, religiously affiliated)

    Votes: 1 0.8%
  • List 3: KPD-T (Communists, "Thaelmann" faction, traditional)

    Votes: 7 5.5%
  • List 4: KPD-SE ("Eurocommunist" faction)

    Votes: 5 3.9%
  • List 5: BVP (Bavarian Autonomists)

    Votes: 8 6.3%
  • List 6: Z (Centre Party, Catholic, Christian Democrats)

    Votes: 9 7.0%
  • List 7: KVP (Moderate Conservatives)

    Votes: 1 0.8%
  • List 8: DVP (Liberal Conservatives)

    Votes: 16 12.5%
  • List 9: DVNP (Paleoconservatives, Nationalist)

    Votes: 10 7.8%
  • List 10: DDP (Social Liberals)

    Votes: 6 4.7%
  • List 11: DHP (Hanoverian Regional)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • List 12: CSVD (Christian Democrats, Protestant)

    Votes: 6 4.7%
  • List 13: Die Gruenen (Greens)

    Votes: 9 7.0%
  • List 14: Unabhaengigsliste (List of various independents)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • List 15: NSDAP-ASP-DVF joint list (Nazis, Anti-Semites, Far-Right)

    Votes: 15 11.7%
  • List 16: RPD (Pensioner's Party)

    Votes: 2 1.6%

  • Total voters
    128
The Eurocommunists don't necceserily have to coalition with the hardliners. All they have to do is prop up the centre-left government with supply and confidence votes. I'm sure that they'll do this rather than have a NAZI government which will try to outlaw them...

The problem is that that the hardliners won't coalition with the Eurocommies, and vice-versa.

That, and I don't think Schroeder could stand it. Lehmann, probably, but he's retiring, and not likely to come back any time soon (he's what, 78 years old?).

As for Schoeneberg, I hate to sound like a Zentrum apologist (I'm BVP, partly because of Gauweiler), but she voted against the legalization of abortion. Does she talk about it all the time? No - but she's as solidly and actively pro-life as you can get these days outside of Bavaria.

You want to blame someone for the monstrosity passing? That would be the 8 out of 12 Nazis who voted for it, with an intent "to limit it to certain beneficial demographics" when they come to power... ironic, seeing as they campaigned against such a law for years...
 
The Eurocommunists don't necceserily have to coalition with the hardliners. All they have to do is prop up the centre-left government with supply and confidence votes. I'm sure that they'll do this rather than have a NAZI government which will try to outlaw them...

Of course, there is the possibility of a Grand Coalition of all the moderate parties... of course, the last time that happened, we did it to face the Russians together...
 
Of course, there is the possibility of a Grand Coalition of all the moderate parties... of course, the last time that happened, we did it to face the Russians together...
Ah, you mean a Grand Coalition of all the sensible parties!:D

I can see the NSDAP now: "But you promised us Silly Walks!":D:p
 
I wish all these ignorant foreigners would *no offence* just please refraining from the National Socialists are silly. They are deadly serious to immigrants like myself, they beat people like me up on the street and engage in toughish behaviour. It really isn't funny when you guys refer to them as silly when them getting *possibly* into government will legitemize their Mussoliniate thuggish behaviour.
 
Not me...

The early results terrified me, and the Kohler murder (the trial is starting in two days) has all but sent the Rhineland up in flames. There's still a semi-native mixed-race population there, and now the immigrants are getting caught up in the mania.

Oh, look, the Koln NSDAP headquarters was just set on fire.

(pause)

What else is on?

ooc: not to underplay ot overplay anything, but I don't know where this murder/rioting story of mine is going. Fun to see though.
 
Bump!

OOC: I'm not giving up on this thread until a coalition is formed, so Francisco, get the finalized numbers up please!

IC: Any news on that Kohler murder trial over there? CNN ain't really covering it and I don't known any German, so could someone give me the gist of what's happening?
 
OOC: Can anyone make a list of individual politicians that have come up in this thread, and what their parties/positions are?

IC: The trial opens tomorrow at the Landgericht Köln, and protesters are already gathering across the street from the main entrance. Other than that there's not much to tell.
 
OOC: Can anyone make a list of individual politicians that have come up in this thread, and what their parties/positions are?

OOC: I made Udo Voigt (I think that's his name) the leader of the Nazi party since Hitler is long dead by now. Whether he's running for any chancellorship position or something like that, I don't know.
 
Clip dated May 2, 2009:

*intro music*

Announcer: This is Deutschland 1 News at 11, serving the German People, with Alexandra Hausenberg in the sudio.

Alexandra Hausenberg: Good evening.

Berlin - 100% of polling places have reported in to the Reich Elections Office at this time, and the results have been counted and tabulated.

The results are as follows: *reads off the results*

SPD: 155 seats
CNBPD: 6 seats
KPD-T: 36 seats
KPD-SE: 30 seats
BVP: 42 seats
Z: 30 seats
KVP: 5 seats
DVP: 72 seats
DVNP: 48 seats
DDP: 24 seats
CSVD: 36 seats
Die Gruenen: 53 seats
NSDAP-ASP-DVF: 66 seats
RPD: 5 seats

Several major politicians have since expressed their views on the composition of the new parliament. Firstly, controversial National Socialist General Secretary Voigt had this to say to his supporters, gathered outside Nuremberg’s City Hall:

“We have achieved a great victory tonight! For every voting Nazi last election, we have four more this election! We have caused fear in the Judaeo-Bolshevik elites, and we have the support of true German patriots! Sieg Heil! Germany, your hour is come!” [deafening cheers]

Second to speak after election results were announced was Opposition Leader and Centre Party President Katharina Schoeneberg, speaking to members of the Young Centre chapter in Bonn:

“We face, my fellow Germans, tought times ahead. We face threats to human dignity from radicals on the left, and radicals on the right. Over the next few days, we reasonable members of the Reich must show that we are still capable of civil, orderly government in line with the ideals of heroes such as Stressmann, Schiedemann and Adenauer. We must be principled, but we must be pragmatic too. We must not stand for the crime of abortion or the ravages of pogroms, but we must not let rancor get the better of us. Debates, not brawls, ought to decide the future of the Reich.”

Finally, outgoing Chancellor Robert Lehmann of the SPD recorded an address to the nation from the Reich Chancellery:

Lehmann: My fellow Germans,

Tonight is a night of contradictions. At this time, in my last major address to you, the people of our German Reich, as your Chancellor, I am both elated at the strength of our democratic process and fearful of the portents of the future.

There are many problems in our Reich today. We have, at this time, a ten percent unemployment rate, a weakening Reichsmark, and tens of thousands thousands of Germans have been informed that due to the unethical if not illegal actions of their landlords, that they might have to, for the first time in their lives, depend on the largesse of the Reichs Government for basic needs of shelter.

Thousands of the Reich’s newest Germans – who, of all the countries they could have emigrated to, chose our Reich – face in addition to these problems thuggery and crime that are a stain on the honor of the German people.

And perhaps, worst of all, we have seen for the first time in generations a resurgence of an extremist movement that many of us thought was the relic of a near-horrific past. Many in despair, it seems, have lost faith in our democratic system, and have turned to apostles of hate and prophets of destruction for an easy solution to their problems.

As your Chancellor, and soon to be private citizen, I would like to offer a few words to the proud and strong German people – my people, whom I love and treasure as much as myself:

I know that times are tough. I know that, to many people, their government has failed them. For whatever my government has done, what mistakes it has made, I am deeply sorry. I attempted to act in the best interests of the German people, but I must acknowledge that I am merely human, puny before the might of God. I have made many mistakes, even as I have worked to achieve so much for our Reich.

But, my fellow Germans, extremism is not the answer. Extremism is never the answer. Extremism will not solve any problem in our Reich – in Koln, in Kindenheim or in Berlin. This Reich faces many problems, but solutions will not come at the end of a copper pipe; recovery will not sprout from a bottle grenade. What is needed is civil, democratic and peaceful politics – and those who have the courage to stand up for it.

Thus, my fellow Germans, as the leaders of the parties discuss the formation of the next Government, as my last acts as your Chancellor, I hereby announce that I shall go to the President tomorrow to request use of emergency powers under Article 48 of our constitution, and shall go to your Reichstag to request the passage of an enabling act to aid the Prussian State Government against the civil disorders in the Rhineland and elsewhere.

I bid you good night, and Germany above all.”

*German national anthem plays, then YouTube clip ends.*
 
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OOC: Oh, and for reference requests by some about politicians mentioned so far:

Gerhard Schroeder (SPD) : Incoming leader of the SPD. A likely canidate to replace Lehmann as Reichskanzler. Basically same positions as OTL.

Robert Lehmann (SPD) : Outgoing Reichskanzler. The economic downturn happened on his watch. Became Chancellor in 1998. Pro-abortion; pushed through a legalization bill in 2008, which is being contested in the courts. The first Jewish Reichskanzler.

Angela Merkel (CSVD): Leader of the Protestant CVSD. See OTL version for an idea on what she's like.

Katharina Schoeneberg (Z): Zentrum President and current Leader of the Opposition. Pro-life, but accused by social conservatives of not being forceful enough. Youngest Opposition leader in Republic's history.

Udo Voigt: General Secretary of the NSDAP. Believes in generally Nazi stuff. Crucial in getting Lehmann's abortion law passed, with intent to use it to target "undesirables" on Voigt's part.

Peter Gauweiler: Chairman of the BVP. A hero to Catholic conservatives, and one of the most outspoken opponents of the Lehmann Government's position on abortion. Has somewhat of a cult status among the young in his native Bavaria.
 
OOC: Your very good at making stuff like this up, you should continue this.:)

IC: Oh noes what will the nazis do next? On the bright side at least they arnt in charge, on the other hand SPD is in charge:(.
 
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OOC: Your very good at making stuff like this up, you should continue this.:)

IC: Oh noes what will the nazis do next? On the bright side at least they arnt in charge, on the other hand SPD is in charge:(.

Well, technically we don't know who's going to be in government yet. It looks like the kingmakers in the new Reichstag will be... hold it... the Nazis and the Communists. At least if there's no Grand Coalition, in which case the Nazis and Commies are toast.
 
If there is a grand coalition I hope that the Pensioners' Party is included. They're the only people who care for what happens to us when we get old.
 
If there is a grand coalition I hope that the Pensioners' Party is included. They're the only people who care for what happens to us when we get old.

Pensioner's Party isn't the only one. BVP, for instance, has rammed through healthcare and pensions for the elderly. It only applies to Bavaria, of course, but its not as if the PP has a monopoly on the moral high ground. Indeed, if the BVP joins any coalitions one of its goals is to spread this idea of caring for the elderly.
 
Pensioner's Party isn't the only one. BVP, for instance, has rammed through healthcare and pensions for the elderly. It only applies to Bavaria, of course, but its not as if the PP has a monopoly on the moral high ground. Indeed, if the BVP joins any coalitions one of its goals is to spread this idea of caring for the elderly.

Well, there already is a decent old-age pension... that's why the PP exists - to lobby for keeping benefits.
 

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I hope there will be a coalition that see the wisdom in including the DNVP and thus understand the importance of expanding our Economic Interests in Central Europe.
 
I hope the SPD and it's partners can solve Germanys problems. For example the weakened Reichsmark. Germany has the largest economy in Europe, and it should have a strong currency. I don't want the "Euro" some internationalists already demand.

Concerning the NSDAP, I'm not that much worried. Our democracy is still too strong to let any dictatorship take over Germany. Still I can't belive how much a run the Hitler-Youth has upon youths.
 
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