DBWI: George Washington unwilling to be King George of America

IOTL, George Washington was initially unwilling to accept the title King, but his good friend and eventual Financial Minister Alexander Hamilton convinced him the country needed him to be its king. What if Hamilton hadn’t convinced him to be King George I of the United American Empire? Part of Hamilton’s genius system he came up with was the “electoral college,” in which each state would elect either 1,2, or 3 electors depending upon population size who would vote for the new king from the Ministers of the dead king. How would this alt-government be organized? Is it possible the alt-constitution would have implemented some division between the judicial, executive, and legislative powers, instead of the unified monarchy we see today? Would we see far more republics, perhaps even in countries like France and Germany, if there was the example of a republic in America?
 

Dolan

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It was said that King George I Washington accepted being King because he thought himself cannot beget children since his marriage to Martha Washington being childless until 1782... When both King George and Queen Martha themselves already being old and he actually expect Next King to be elected in a real election.

It was said than when his 51 years old wife turned out pregnant, King Washington actually said "Oh God No", and when King Benjamin I was born, King George apocryphally downed an entire bottle of Brandy while ranting about how they should be a republic at the first place to Hamilton, but now everything is too late to be retracted.

The Washington Dynasty then has been always elected as American Kings, something that King George I himself predicted as he saw America turned into a copy of Holy Roman Empire.
 
It was said that King George I Washington accepted being King because he thought himself cannot beget children since his marriage to Martha Washington being childless until 1782... When both King George and Queen Martha themselves already being old and he actually expect Next King to be elected in a real election.

It was said than when his 51 years old wife turned out pregnant, King Washington actually said "Oh God No", and when King Benjamin I was born, King George apocryphally downed an entire bottle of Brandy while ranting about how they should be a republic at the first place to Hamilton, but now everything is too late to be retracted.

The Washington Dynasty then has been always elected as American Kings, something that King George I himself predicted as he saw America turned into a copy of Holy Roman Empire.

Sure, but by the 1820s the Washingtons were effectively puppets of the Dukes of Columbia, the Burr family.
 
Sure, but by the 1820s the Washingtons were effectively puppets of the Dukes of Columbia, the Burr family.

To be fair, King Benjamin needed to be a puppet. I mean, bless his soul,the fact somebody that littered with birth complications in the early 19th century should have died before the age of 5 by all odds. Then again, it's a miracle Martha could even carry a kid to term at her age... but a "Miracle" that seemed to suggest to the population God really did think it best America have a king.

It's a bit of a medical shame we can't get a look at her with modern genetic technology.
 
It was said that King George I Washington accepted being King because he thought himself cannot beget children since his marriage to Martha Washington being childless until 1782... When both King George and Queen Martha themselves already being old and he actually expect Next King to be elected in a real election.

It was said than when his 51 years old wife turned out pregnant, King Washington actually said "Oh God No", and when King Benjamin I was born, King George apocryphally downed an entire bottle of Brandy while ranting about how they should be a republic at the first place to Hamilton, but now everything is too late to be retracted.

The Washington Dynasty then has been always elected as American Kings, something that King George I himself predicted as he saw America turned into a copy of Holy Roman Empire.
With so many nobles escaping from the French Revolution, it was inevitable that the USA would turn into a new HRE, regardless of whether Washington became King George I or not.

The voting franchise was so restricted by land ownership before 1828, that recently immigrated European nobles actually consisted of 32% of the vote simply because they were able to buy up land upon arrival.
 

Dolan

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. Then again, it's a miracle Martha could even carry a kid to term at her age... but a "Miracle" that seemed to suggest to the population God really did think it best America have a king.
Yeah, being born to an old couple, King Benjamin did have some hereditary problems there. It was a good decision when the Senate let him marry the love of his life, Rachel Itahaha Tecumseh, daughter of Chief Tecumseh of the Indian Confederacy, paving the road for reconciliation as Kingdom of America basically declare all American Indian chieftain to be nobles equal to those of European ancestry, giving the third King George II "Hiawatha" Washington.

Sure, today's portrayal of the move was often seen through rose-tinted glass as a matter to peacefully living side by side with Native Americans. But it did has a darker undertone about claiming all Native American lands through marriages to weak Puppet Kings.
 
Yeah, being born to an old couple, King Benjamin did have some hereditary problems there. It was a good decision when the Senate let him marry the love of his life, Rachel Itahaha Tecumseh, daughter of Chief Tecumseh of the Indian Confederacy, paving the road for reconciliation as Kingdom of America basically declare all American Indian chieftain to be nobles equal to those of European ancestry, giving the third King George II "Hiawatha" Washington.

Sure, today's portrayal of the move was often seen through rose-tinted glass as a matter to peacefully living side by side with Native Americans. But it did has a darker undertone about claiming all Native American lands through marriages to weak Puppet Kings.

God no... I'm sorry, I mean no disrespect, but as an American sometimes we want to rip our hair out when that "darker undertones" thing is brought up about how we "culturally genocided" the Amerindians via intermarriage and assimilation/mutual community development. The merging of American and Amerindian societies (which were going to press up against eachother one way or another) was about as peaceful and prosperity-inducing as could possibly be wished for, allowing us to avoid both permenant racial tension and/or ACTUAL genocide (Like what the Canadians did up north... have you SEEN some of those pictures of the Creek and Metis camps?) What were the Federal Government supposed to do: wait until settler squatters or states started claiming land and leaving the Indians with no right to make private property claims in court because they weren't citizens? Try to shoot and surpress its own citizens (likely triggering a civil war assuming you'd even get a government in power that would do it in the first place), do what the Canadians did and just keep pushing them West until there's nowhere for them to go?
 

Dolan

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God no... I'm sorry, I mean no disrespect, but as an American sometimes we want to rip our hair out when that "darker undertones" thing is brought up about how we "culturally genocided" the Amerindians via intermarriage and assimilation/mutual community development. The merging of American and Amerindian societies (which were going to press up against eachother one way or another) was about as peaceful and prosperity-inducing as could possibly be wished for, allowing us to avoid both permenant racial tension and/or ACTUAL genocide (Like what the Canadians did up north... have you SEEN some of those pictures of the Creek and Metis camps?) What were the Federal Government supposed to do: wait until settler squatters or states started claiming land and leaving the Indians with no right to make private property claims in court because they weren't citizens? Try to shoot and surpress its own citizens (likely triggering a civil war assuming you'd even get a government in power that would do it in the first place), do what the Canadians did and just keep pushing them West until there's nowhere for them to go?

Ah yes, well... That was quite complicated business I know. The very fact that the Kingdom of America would recognize Amerindian territories as formal Earldoms did require said Chieftains and their family to at least formally accept Christianization. Yes, it was quite ironic considering the Founding Fathers themselves being mostly deists in private, but it does result in the now streotype Bible-Thumping Evangelical Amerindians.

And that's not looking into how House of Washington turned into de facto French Creole because they keep marrying either Amerindian Nobles OR American French Nobles in 19th century. To the point that Fench being de facto second language to American Nobility.

Sure their integration has been contrasted too much with Segregated, much maligned Canaindians of the North, who fiercely resist any attempt of Christianization.
 
Guys, guys, the Canadians are still angry over having to relinquish their claim to Quebec after King Henry II defeated them back in the 30s
 
Well, it makes sense that the American nobility are half French given that between Louisiana and Quebec there's a good deal of French people in America. The same is true of the Mexicans. Really America has followed the Russian model whereby the nobility of each conquered region is simply incorporated into the nobility as a whole.
 

Dolan

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Guys, guys, the Canadians are still angry over having to relinquish their claim to Quebec after King Henry II defeated them back in the 30s
It has been joked around that The French end up ultimate winning the French and Indian War by indirectly creating Kingdom of America.

Kingdom of America did end up sheltering House Bourbon and most of the French Nobility from the twenty years of Republican Revolt (1790-1810) while the various Kingdoms and Empires of Europe making a grand alliance to overthrow the dual consulate of Max Robesapierre - Napoleon Bonaparte. Those twenty years of chaos and terror did end up credited with utterly destroying any promises of Large Scale Republican movements.

Current (peaceful) Republican advocates though, did point out on how hard it was to dislodge the Republican Consulate of France, and the subsequent bitter guerilla terrors waged by Republicans all across Spain, France, and Italy for decades to come.
 
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Ah yes, well... That was quite complicated business I know. The very fact that the Kingdom of America would recognize Amerindian territories as formal Earldoms did require said Chieftains and their family to at least formally accept Christianization. Yes, it was quite ironic considering the Founding Fathers themselves being mostly deists in private, but it does result in the now streotype Bible-Thumping Evangelical Amerindians.

And that's not looking into how House of Washington turned into de facto French Creole because they keep marrying either Amerindian Nobles OR American French Nobles in 19th century. To the point that Fench being de facto second language to American Nobility.

Sure their integration has been contrasted too much with Segregated, much maligned Canaindians of the North, who fiercely resist any attempt of Christianization.

Hey, the Zeal of the Convert is a real thing, and the fact Evangelical Protestantism became such a defining features of American civil identity really was a powerful motivator for assimilating population to try to act "More American and the Americans" in order to get social acceptance, especially at the lowest and highest echelons of society (suspicion of "Popery" ran DEEP... there's a reason why the 2nd Estate exiles found succors in the US while the 1st Estate headed further south). As for the Washington Dynasty well... isen't that the case for basically every dynasty? The House of Osman pretty much only has its Y Chromosome as a verifiably Turkish Part, and the Brazilians don't even have the origional paternial line anymore.
 
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