DBWI: For the last time. It Was Not Genocide. Got it?

Some days, it just gets harder and harder to have faith in some nations of the world.

I mean really, trying another UN resolution declaring the US blockade of Japan (and not merely nuking it into submission) a case of deliberate genocide in pursuit of territorial expansion?

Excuse me while I :rolleyes:.

Ignoring the fact that the bombs weren't ready until well after the blockade had taken its effect, where is the recognition that the Japanese government never actually surrendered, ever? Where is the recognition of how unnatural bad weather kept invasion craft away? The US did not conspire with the Pacificers to kill every last person on "Airstrip Two"!

Man.:mad::mad:
 

WyldCard4

Banned
Some days, it just gets harder and harder to have faith in some nations of the world.

I mean really, trying another UN resolution declaring the US blockade of Japan (and not merely nuking it into submission) a case of deliberate genocide in pursuit of territorial expansion?

Excuse me while I :rolleyes:.

Ignoring the fact that the bombs weren't ready until well after the blockade had taken its effect, where is the recognition that the Japanese government never actually surrendered, ever? Where is the recognition that it took so long to actually land soldiers because of the series of squals and hurricanes that kept pushing out invasion craft? Where is the recognition of how those of the brainwashed population who weren't starving were equally likely to try and spear any serviceman as to beg for food (and sometimes both)? Where is the recognition that the vast majority of the deaths after US food aid started coming in were from rampant diseases like the Indian Flu, and not from some nightmarish US policy to kill off every last person on "Airstrip Two"?

Man.:mad::mad:
I know, it makes even less sense considering how may Japs are now US citizens, if e hated them so much why did we let 7 million in our country?
 
OOC: (Covers head in shame) From new idea to completely wanked in one post... thanks, n00b.
Some one else care to salvage it?
 

WyldCard4

Banned
OOC: (Covers head in shame) From new idea to completely wanked in one post... thanks, n00b.
OOC: What did I do wrong?

I meerly assumed that quite a few would came to the US because of problems there, they didn't all come at once, it was over the last 60 years.

I was also trying to imply 3rd world status.
 
OOC: What did I do wrong?

I meerly assumed that quite a few would came to the US because of problems there, they didn't all come at once, it was over the last 60 years.

I was also trying to imply 3rd world status.
Outright annexation with complete citizenship? Mass foreign immigration? No actual implication of any real negative therin? No insinuation of back-history, no alternative moral PoV, no counter-argument to flesh out the TL?

If you don't know that DOESN'T sound like 2 cent wank, that's why no matter how many posts you have you will still be a n00b.

Not a more true statement in one post. Congrats
Is that sarcasm? At this moment, I really can't tell.

I'm guessing this was meant at a certain someone, and roughly means "I know what a *#*@%) DBWI is, but why did you jack it up on the first post?
OOC: Y'don't get these problems with my Ignore list, y'know. ;)
Oh, I've tried. I just hate hitting that "show post" button every time I don't understand what someone just said. Especially when they post in other areas alot.
 

MrP

Banned
Oh, I've tried. I just hate hitting that "show post" button every time I don't understand what someone just said. Especially when they post in other areas alot.

One must reach an advanced stage known as not caring a button for the opinions of those on the Ignore List. ;)

I haven't managed it is every case, but I try. ;)
 
If its not genocide what is it exactly?

Starving the home islands with the inevitable result of millions of dead long after the Japanese ceased to be any possible threat surely constitutes genocide.

I suppose dead civilians can't work in factories but then the bombers had long reduced Japanese industry and agriculture to a level below that of a feudal nation.

The excuse *they didn't surrender* doesn't entirely wash either. The USA's childish refusal to accept anything but an unconditional surrender, coupled by a refusal to acknowledge that the hardliners didn't constitute the official government after the schism is simply damning.

Does the annexation of Okinawa not constitute territorial expansion?

Regardless, I doubt much will come from it, we all know the USA ignores any indictments from the UN that might harm its interests.
 

MrP

Banned
I also think it's anachronistic the way people use Pacificers in this context as if the "customs union" of China and Australia is anything other than a recent concept. President Fang Yi's outreach to the Australians wouldn't have produced any fruit, I've always felt, without the 1968 Oil Crisis coming atop the Constitutional Scandal. Even that took more than a decade and a half to get to anything similar to the present structure, which is still far from monolithic!
 

WyldCard4

Banned
Outright annexation with complete citizenship? Mass foreign immigration? No actual implication of any real negative therin? No insinuation of back-history, no alternative moral PoV, no counter-argument to flesh out the TL?

If you don't know that DOESN'T sound like 2 cent wank, that's why no matter how many posts you have you will still be a n00b.

Is that sarcasm? At this moment, I really can't tell.


I'm guessing this was meant at a certain someone, and roughly means "I know what a *#*@%) DBWI is, but why did you jack it up on the first post?

Oh, I've tried. I just hate hitting that "show post" button every time I don't understand what someone just said. Especially when they post in other areas alot.
OOC: That is not what I meant at all, I assumed a few million might come to th US over the next 60 years, the numbers may have been a little high I admit.

I am sorry if anyone misunderstood, I didn't mean we conquered them at all.

If it would make people hayyier I could cut it down to 700 thousend.
 
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