DBWI: entente wins the second Great War

Come now, Milosevic was an idealist who believed he could calm the Serbs through concessions and increased autonomy. It didn't work in the end and the Imperial forces had to intervene to destroy the rebellion, but you can't blame the man for trying to find a peaceful solution. Perhaps he was a bit too kindhearted for the position he found himself in, but he was never an enemy of the state.

He could have been, though! If the Austro-Hungarians had been destroyed, he probably would have been a genocidal dictator, like Macarthur was for the former US!
 
In any case, the US for the Cps and Japan for the Entente is NOT an equal trade. Japan had enough trouble against the Qing in the war in the 60s; if the Qing could beat the Japs within two years, the US and Germany should manage it easily.

I'd call that war more of a draw - Japan got ejected from mainland China, but the attempted Chinese invasions of Korea and Indochina got so badly trounced that the Chinese had to agree to peace and recognise continued Japanese rule of Formosa. And in the long run, that led to the Indochinese Federation becoming a more enthusiastic ally of Japan (they weren't about to take any s*** from China after just being rid of France).

OTOH, it did lead to the Empire of Japan becoming a far less militant power than it had been. Sure, they're still a major maritime power, and Sakhalin oil's been a major boon to their economy, but they're about informal influence, defensive alliance and trade rather than conquest these days.
 
I'd call that war more of a draw - Japan got ejected from mainland China, but the attempted Chinese invasions of Korea and Indochina got so badly trounced that the Chinese had to agree to peace and recognise continued Japanese rule of Formosa. And in the long run, that led to the Indochinese Federation becoming a more enthusiastic ally of Japan (they weren't about to take any s*** from China after just being rid of France).

OTOH, it did lead to the Empire of Japan becoming a far less militant power than it had been. Sure, they're still a major maritime power, and Sakhalin oil's been a major boon to their economy, but they're about informal influence, defensive alliance and trade rather than conquest these days.

Yeah, and you forgot to mention that the reason for this was that they failed to decisively break the Qing. The 60s were pretty much Japan's last shot at standing a chance against China; a surprise attack coupled with a massive attack into Manchuria, and they were still beaten back at the gates of Beijing, and surrounded and destroyed at Mukden. The only reason the Chinese were beaten so badly in Korea and Indochina was because the Japanese instituted Israel like conscription laws, and received a ridiculous amount of support from the Macarthur regime. In the second round, not even those laws could stop the fall of Korea and Indochina and the return of Taiwan to the Qing in the 1970s war. THAT was the defeat that broke the Japanese power, not the 1960s.
 
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