DBWI: Entente plans for Great War victory?

One of the most popular AH topics is the subject of an Entente victory in the Great War and what it would have entailed, other than a cementing of the British, French and Russian empires. While it seems almost certain that France would have taken Elsass-Lothringen and split Germany's colonial empires with Britain, and that Austria-Hungary would have ceded territory to Serbia and Russia, I wonder how harsh they would have been, especially if the war ended in 1918 or later, and how they would have handled the overlapping desires on partitioning the Ottoman Empire (the Hashemites wanted a united Arab state, but Russia, France, and Britain wanted to split up the Levant, and there was even a quixotic bid to establish a Jewish state under British protection in Palestine).
 
I suspect Britain would mainly seek to limit Germany’s navy seeing as how that was one of the main reasons for entering the war. Some colonial possessions like German SW Africa and East Africa would be likely. Given how Britain escaped the war relatively in tack compared to the other powers and seeing as it lost no territory due to Germany being unable to reach it cause of the RN I suspect that would be there main focus. But of course they escaped a humiliating treaty like France or Russia cause thy stabbed them in the back and left the war early
 
If the Germans hold on until 1919 or later they could be split into smaller states, would the UK be able to reclaim Hannover?
to be honest The earlier they lose the better, the further they hold on the more vengeful the Entente could be , an early loss could mean their borders simply being redrawn, the loss of colonies and possible restriction of their military, a later loss could be the end of Germany as a nation, and thats not even starting on the reparations they or their successors states would have to pay, which would only rack up in size the further the war drags on.
Radicalism would likely rise as it did in France, Italy and Russia.
 
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If the Germans hold on until 1919 or later they could be split into smaller states,

I think you’re right the longer the wars drags the more the entente will want to dismember it. France may try and establish a puppet around the Rhine and even annex some territory beyond A-L. I dunno as much about Russia but I expect they would want Galicia from Austria and to take parts of the Ottoman Empire.
 
I think you’re right the longer the wars drags the more the entente will want to dismember it. France may try and establish a puppet around the Rhine and even annex some territory beyond A-L. I dunno as much about Russia but I expect they would want Galicia from Austria and to take parts of the Ottoman Empire.
Russia loves the ocean, so they would want to try to lock down as much of the black sea as possible, I.E taking eastern Bulgarian and northern Ottoman ports, granted thats if the war ends early before 1917 so they don't do the whole civil war thing.
We all know what would happen with Alsace-Lorraine, for the rest of mainland Germany France would probably take the Rhine themselves if they could, if they couldn't they would absolutely create a puppet state, they might even try to extend it the coalfields in the ruhr as that would weaken Germany and strengthen France.
Britain and France would take colonies in Africa, they would give kaiser-wilhelmsland (North-eastern papua) to Australia and maybe a few more of their islands in the pacific, although most of Germany's Asian possessions would go to japan (which includes their ports in China).
Belgium would take back Eupen and Malmendy for their troubles.
If the war ends late enough were Russia has signed brest-litovsk the Poles would likely rebel and take ethnically polish regions of Eastern Germany (which conventionally gives them access to the Batlic sea)
 
France would want Germany's military severely restricted, and probably an independent Rhineland to curtail Germany's industrial recovery. Britain would be happier with naval restrictions.

The Ottoman Empire would be toast. The Arabian peninsula split between Britain and France, with Russia taking much of eastern Anatolia.
 
Here is a fairly lengthy and mildly Russiaphilic discussion of Russia's war aims:
https://encyclopedia.1914-1918-online.net/article/war_aims_and_war_aims_discussions_russian_empire

The article is long but this is the key quote:

"The minister then went on with some suggestions about redrawing the map in favour of the victors. Of course, Alsace and Lorraine would be returned to France, as would Schleswig-Holstein to Denmark, while Hannover would be restored as an independent kingdom. Meanwhile, the Dual Monarchy would be split up into three separate components, Austria, Bohemia, and Hungary, while Serbia would acquire Bosnia, Herzegovina, Dalmatia, and northern Albania. There would also be some adjustments to other Balkan borders, while Britain, France, and Japan would divide Germany’s colonies amongst themselves.

"Sazonov also divulged Russia’s desiderata. These included annexing the Lower Niemen River basin from Germany as well as Eastern Galicia from Austria. Meanwhile, the Kingdom of Poland would also gain lands from the losers. The latter came in the context of an unusual proclamation in early August by the army’s commander-in-chief, Grand Duke Nikolai Nikolaevich. In a manifesto that had been composed by the foreign ministry to all Poles under German, Austrian, and Russian rule, he called on them to unite in an autonomous state “under the sceptre of the Russian tsar…free in faith, language and self-rule.”[9] Although conservatives opposed it, the Grand Duke’s appeal was designed to strengthen the loyalty of a nation whose loyalty remained questionable."

However, the article stresses that what the Russians really wanted was Constantinople.
 
France would want Germany's military severely restricted, and probably an independent Rhineland to curtail Germany's industrial recovery. Britain would be happier with naval restrictions.

The Ottoman Empire would be toast. The Arabian peninsula split between Britain and France, with Russia taking much of eastern Anatolia.
Plus if Greece joins in they would take large parts of western anatolia aswell, would they be able to take Constantinople? Regardless the Ottomans would become a rump state, a shell of their former self, which was already in itself a shell of the great empire they once were.
The Austro-Hungarians would collapse after the war, no way THAT abomination was ever gonna survive a loss in WW1, Italy would get the gains they were promised by the Entente, any remaining land would be either annexed by Russia and friends or become new states.
 
One of the most popular AH topics is the subject of an Entente victory in the Great War and what it would have entailed, other than a cementing of the British, French and Russian empires. While it seems almost certain that France would have taken Elsass-Lothringen and split Germany's colonial empires with Britain, and that Austria-Hungary would have ceded territory to Serbia and Russia, I wonder how harsh they would have been, especially if the war ended in 1918 or later, and how they would have handled the overlapping desires on partitioning the Ottoman Empire (the Hashemites wanted a united Arab state, but Russia, France, and Britain wanted to split up the Levant, and there was even a quixotic bid to establish a Jewish state under British protection in Palestine).

I'm pretty sure that Germany would be treated pretty leniently. Sure, they would lose Alsace-Lorraine, but the treaty wouldn't be a new Brest-Litovsk/Berlin. Moderated by the US, the western democracies would grant Germany a peace free of annexations and reparations, with referendums in all disputed territories.

The Habsburg Empire would be dismembered and Austria allowed to join Germany. Poland would be much larger than OTL, although it might merge with Lithuania again to get a seaport (I don't see any large ports with a Polish majority in West Prussia).

Also, the Americans will surely exert some pressure to limit the amount of German reparations, to avoid putting too much stress on the German economy. I think it would be a better world, overall.
 
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