DBWI: Early End to Reconstruction

If Reconstruction after the civil war is ended earlier, say Blaine loses in 1876 or something. What effects would the early end of Reconstruction have on the south? What kind of political culture would exist in the south if we had a different president who pushed through The Civil Rights Act of 1878 and the Voting Rights Act of 1879? (OOC: Functionally identical to their 1964 and 1965 counterparts IOTL)
 
The black community in the united states would be completely different.

Before reconstruction blacks were thought of as beasts of burden for the most part, the freedman's department was obbessed with education and at that time you had a population that had been banned on pentitly of death in some areas from reading. It was the reconstruction years that built the foundation of the black communities current success.

A culture that valued, hard work, education and thrift developed and the black community rose out of poverty and ended up becoming wealthier then their white neighbors.

You saw this phenominon in several places lebonese in east africa, the Igbo in nigeria, the Parsis in india, and of course the jewish comunity in europe. You also saw the same thing happen to blacks in the south. The black community has a kind of weird place right now loved as the model minority and loathed for their success by certain groups of people.

Long run....with out this long period of investment you get a poorer black community thats not nearly as conservative as the current black community is. The south probally ends up being a lot poorer too, reconstruction did a lot to build up their economy and educational system.
 
Might we see a rise in Confederate apologia after this early end? If so, that might help inhibit the two Civil Rights Act, and push back African Americans rights.
 
Might we see a rise in Confederate apologia after this early end? If so, that might help inhibit the two Civil Rights Act, and push back African Americans rights.
Possibly, but it’s really hard to see how they could possibly whitewash the Civil War being about slavery. I mean, Alexander Stephens mentioned it directly in his cornerstone address.

I think though that if Reconstruction had ended earlier you might have seen a return of reactionary proto-fascist groups like the Klan after enough time.
 
Possibly, but it’s really hard to see how they could possibly whitewash the Civil War being about slavery. I mean, Alexander Stephens mentioned it directly in his cornerstone address.
Fair enough. The evidence is so overwhelming, it's hard to see if they could defend such a state built on slavery.

Apparently, the Radical Republicans were starting to decline in the early 1870's, and Blaine's (while a moderate) victory and the continuation of Reconstruction helped prolong them as a faction. Maybe have them dissipate during that period.
 
In which states did Blaine prolong Reconstruction?

By March 1877 it only existed in SC and LA.
Huh? There were still a good number of federal troops in the rest of the south in 1876. Yeah there had been the partial drawdown in several states that had happened by then, but Reconstruction didn’t officially end until 1893.
 

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Fair enough. The evidence is so overwhelming, it's hard to see if they could defend such a state built on slavery.

Apparently, the Radical Republicans were starting to decline in the early 1870's, and Blaine's (while a moderate) victory and the continuation of Reconstruction helped prolong them as a faction. Maybe have them dissipate during that period.
They'd probably talk about Bobby Lee, who tortured his wife's dead father's slaves brutally.
 
Huh? There were still a good number of federal troops in the rest of the south in 1876. Yeah there had been the partial drawdown in several states that had happened by then, but Reconstruction didn’t officially end until 1893.

No? It was around the South until the late 1880's.

Where did Blaine find the troops for this?

By 1877 the US Army was long since back to peacetime levels, ie less that 30,000, only about a tenth of whom could be spared for duty in the South. And with the Civil War to be paid for, no way would Congress fund a larger one.

Also, of course, the Republicans were losing control in several Southern states as early as 1870 - ie long before the troops were pulled. There presence wasn't that important.
 
Where did Blaine find the troops for this?

By 1877 the US Army was long since back to peacetime levels, ie less that 30,000, only about a tenth of whom could be spared for duty in the South. And with the Civil War to be paid for, no way would Congress fund a larger one.

Also, of course, the Republicans were losing control in several Southern states as early as 1870 - ie long before the troops were pulled. There presence wasn't that important.
I'm not sure where you're getting your history from.
 
Where did Blaine find the troops for this?

By 1877 the US Army was long since back to peacetime levels, ie less that 30,000, only about a tenth of whom could be spared for duty in the South. And with the Civil War to be paid for, no way would Congress fund a larger one.

Also, of course, the Republicans were losing control in several Southern states as early as 1870 - ie long before the troops were pulled. There presence wasn't that important.

OOC: this is a DWBI, not a wi about reconstruction. The PoD for Blaine in 1876 implies an earlier PoD for successful reconstruction.

Ic-you have to remember that the vastly improved Indian policy of Grant in which tribal governments in exchange for agreeing to abide by existing treaties were formally recognized as having the right to expel anyone residing in tribal territory without authorization allowed more garrison troops.
 
The economic development of the South would have been hindered.
New Orleans , Oklahoma City and Birmingham might not have become major industrial regions without the Black middle class to support the early industrial growth.
 
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