In a recent interview Fmr Governor Bush revealed that his family initially considered having him run for President in 2000. They eventually decided against it due to Dubya's past struggles with alcohol and instead he backed Jeb. How do you think history would change with a different Bush in the White House?
DBWI: Dubya runs for President
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Jeb Bush winning the Florida Gubernatorial Elections of 1994 and 1998 perfectly positioned him to run for President in the United States Presidential Election of 2004. In the United States Presidential Election of 2000, Vice President Al Gore defeated Senator John McCain of Arizona. Jeb Bush defeated Gore four years later. Perhaps Dubya might have won against Gore in ATL 2000. He was more charismatic than McCain after all.
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W loses to Gore badly, if he even gets the nomination. McCain came close but W doesn't have the gravitas to be taken seriously.
Difference is Jeb doesn't get the nomination in 2004. GOP won't go back to the Bush well after that, and pretty much anyone would have done a better job than that pendejo. Hillary had to clean up after a Bush just like her husband.
Difference is Jeb doesn't get the nomination in 2004. GOP won't go back to the Bush well after that, and pretty much anyone would have done a better job than that pendejo. Hillary had to clean up after a Bush just like her husband.
Probably would have done OK there. In OTL he gave a speech calling for calm and asking Texans not to blame Muslim Americans for the attacks.
Another interesting question: Would the Clinton-Lewis ticket have won in 2008 with an even marginally competent GOP incumbent?
Probably. Jeb Bush was critical of Gore for not invading Afghanistan after 9/11. Gore instead used a more limited military option. Bush used his home state advantage in Florida, and his selection of Former Pennsylvania Governor Tom Ridge swung both Ohio and Pennsylvania away from the Democrats, while making Delaware and New Jersey close.
Bush invaded Iraq in 2005, which helped his approval ratings, but by 2007, the war was becoming unpopular. To add to that, Bush bungled the Hurricane season and the economy began giving out in late 2007. Now I doubt an alternate Republican would have invaded Iraq, but the economy would still collapse on schedule.
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I will give Jeb credit for one thing: a few days after the election he signed off on Hillary's bad bank idea for fixing the economy. Jeb (and Pelosi) wanted to simply hand trillions of taxpayer dollars to the megabanks. A coalition of liberals and fiscal hawks blocked that lamebrain idea....HRC understood that a lot of the toxic asset problems were really just on paper, and were domino effects from the housing crash. So she got the biggest stakeholders (big banks, Home Depot, Lowe's, Re/Max, ERA, etc) to buy shares in the bad bank, which purchased a lot of underwater mortgages and refinanced them. Eventually the housing market recovered and the bad bank was able to cut its losses and spread them out over time.
If we'd simply rewarded the irresponsible behavior of Countrywide and Goldman Sachs, we would have ended up with trillion dollar deficits and double digit unemployment.
If we'd simply rewarded the irresponsible behavior of Countrywide and Goldman Sachs, we would have ended up with trillion dollar deficits and double digit unemployment.
If the Oilers don’t move to Tennessee, I think W runs. This made him very interested in owning an NFL franchise, and he became part of the ownership group of the Houston Vipers.
He was instrumental in bringing Drew Bledsoe to the Vipers in ‘02, and the battles with the Colts for AFC South began. Maybe Peyton has a ring if he did not have to lose to Drew twice a year on top of running into Belichick and Brady every damn playoff in Foxboro?
It also removes him as the President of IOC.
He was instrumental in bringing Drew Bledsoe to the Vipers in ‘02, and the battles with the Colts for AFC South began. Maybe Peyton has a ring if he did not have to lose to Drew twice a year on top of running into Belichick and Brady every damn playoff in Foxboro?
It also removes him as the President of IOC.
Even if they stayed in Texas than Bush probably would've ended up somewhere else in the sports world. Commissioner of Baseball maybe?
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For those wondering, Bush had a genuine interest in an NFL franchise. In OTL since he was already considering a run late by 1996 (for 2000) nothing came of it.
In this TL, he is not seen as the front runner almost from Election Day that he was. Or does not consider it.
For those wondering, Bush had a genuine interest in an NFL franchise. In OTL since he was already considering a run late by 1996 (for 2000) nothing came of it.
In this TL, he is not seen as the front runner almost from Election Day that he was. Or does not consider it.
W also recommended Condi Rice as NFL commissioner. She's one of the best commissioners in sports, but it took some selling by W to convince the other owners. Robert Kraft was pushing some idiot named Roger Goodell. He ended up becoming commissioner of some mid major conference and running it into the ground.
I wonder if a W presidency would have butterflied Pelosi's disastrous Speakership? One big reason Hillary was successful is she convinced the Democrats to dump Pelosi after they almost lost the majority in 2010. With Stupak taking over they passed the Dream Act, expanded CHIP so all children are covered, worked across the aisle for sentencing reform, and tied federal student loan interest rates to the school's default rate.
I wonder if a W presidency would have butterflied Pelosi's disastrous Speakership? One big reason Hillary was successful is she convinced the Democrats to dump Pelosi after they almost lost the majority in 2010. With Stupak taking over they passed the Dream Act, expanded CHIP so all children are covered, worked across the aisle for sentencing reform, and tied federal student loan interest rates to the school's default rate.