Yellow Diamond. I'm surprised how well she can do sinister voices
(DBWI) Do you guys like Don Bluth's Alexei?
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While we're at it, has Rebecca Sugar come out and said if she liked Alexei or not? I have a feeling that learning the real history might've sullied her enjoyment of that film.
Seeing how much the history of SU differs from ours, I think she herself is into alternate history in a way
Hey, Mark Hamill, who played the ultimate Innocent Heroic Farmboy, did a fantastic Joker.
True, but Lukais also fell into the Dark Light some time between Eps 3 and 4
Ooc: with a POD going back to 1910, technically, I kinda feel like culture would be more different than we've had it so...
OOC: yeah that's fair, but I still wanted Mark Hamill as the Joker
IC: Yeah, but that's sort of the best part of Celestial Empire-- the theme/ idea that you can lose your innocence/ do bad things, but you can always redeem yourself. It reminds me a lot of the pop culture portrayal of Rasputin, as somebody who did bad things but ultimately redeemed himself, regardless of wether or not you think of him as a good or bad person.
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I wonder, if Alexie never happened, or Bluth didn't overtake the formerly all powerful House of Mouse, would Russian history be as well known? OTL, the film introduced a lot of kids to the culture and history of the motherland, and it snowballed, especially for my generation-i was born in 01.
Also, finally got around to watching it, and oh my god I love it. And how has no one mentioned Jane yet? Easily one of the better love interests in any bluth movie and her song 'Love Is A Pauper's Wealth' brought a tear to my eyes. Plus later on as Tsarina, she was one of the biggest influences on his reign, so her portrayal as suave and charismatic was perfect
Also, finally got around to watching it, and oh my god I love it. And how has no one mentioned Jane yet? Easily one of the better love interests in any bluth movie and her song 'Love Is A Pauper's Wealth' brought a tear to my eyes. Plus later on as Tsarina, she was one of the biggest influences on his reign, so her portrayal as suave and charismatic was perfect
Of course Jane was great, and the boy falling for a not Russian probably helped the bloodline a bit. Also, that inspirational theme by Donna Lewis. It is the anthem for disabled kids everywhere, one of hope.
Also, I just learned that the guy providing the narration in the film was THE Harry Turtledove. That's neat
Other than an adorable film, what do you guys think of Tsar Alexie II's rule and legacy? I think it's safe to say he did more to help the worker than the USSR, but that's mostly because of trotsky and Stalin. He also reconquered much of the old empire and implemented civil rights, but he and Jane were both absolutist at their hearts, and many decry that his reign was 1 step forward, 2 steps back (despite the fact that thus far, Peter IV, and Nicholas III have both proven competent and progressive Tsars, no matter how absolute they were/are)
Could've been worse, but at least they didn't put a rapping dog in the middle of the film like The Trump Weinstein Company did in their blatant rip off version.
Alexi wasn't exactly Catherine the Great, but he was a good Tsar, mostly because he knew how to improve the system when it failed. Maybe I'm the resident Russian (even if I didn't grow up there because of the economic crash), but I think he was instrumental in making our education system, worker's rights, and freedom of expression not suck. He also removed a ton of his own power, which is something that greater rulers than him have been reluctant to do. Alexi knew what it was like to be in between a rock and a hard place, and that made him a much more compassionate Tsar, not to mention that his childhood earned him the permanent sympathy of the people. He was basically a return to normalcy, and his crisis management is the template the Duma still uses, over 100 years later. I think his ability to stop the country from setting itself on fire, while enacting massive reform is, well, impressive.
Does anyone remember if Alexei was parodied on Robot Chicken or Saturday Night Live at some point after it came out?
I think there’s one from Robot Chicken with him singing one of the movies main musics while massacring the Politburo
Are we not going to talk about Jeremy Irons's performance as Trotsky? He didn't get as much screen time as Rasputin or Alexei, granted, but his work of bringing both the speech patterns of his performance of Scar in the Lion King and his own way of speaking that hasn't been seen in any of his current performances since was awesome. His few lines at the end of the film when Trotsky is being executed stuck with me a lot as a child, and this movie is what got me interested in history (specifically Russian) in the first place.
Does anybody know who played Lenin? I can't find anything about it on the internet. His line during his execution stuck with me throughout my childhood and even into my high school years, and I've searched a few pages on Google and I can't find anything.
Does anybody know who played Lenin? I can't find anything about it on the internet. His line during his execution stuck with me throughout my childhood and even into my high school years, and I've searched a few pages on Google and I can't find anything.
If my memory doesn't fail me, if was Sir Christopher Lee (but I'm not sure)
I'll use some clips to see if you're right. I never imagined Lenin was secretly Count Dooku!
Edit: Yeah, it checks out (or at least sounds really similar). Why isn't it in his filmography?
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I think they were undermanned so they had to use Christopher Lloyd again, but I'm not sure. I'll have to recheck.
Edit: I was wrong. He was voiced by Rick Jones, the same guy who voiced Nicholas II.
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