DBWI - Different outcome to Mexican War

A quick note before this one starts: I know it's probably unlikely (though there's at least one good TL on the subject), but it just tickled my fancy :)

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So Raoul de la Vega was on TV again, talking about building a wall to stop the 'Anglos' from getting into Mexican California if he's ever elected.

This made me think: as we all know, back before the US broke up, after the short-lived annexation of Texas began, they tried invading Mexico for territories north of the Rio Grande. They lost, of course, which many have argued precipitated or at least hastened the round of civil conflicts that ultimately tore the United States apart.

My question is: how different do we think things would have been if America had won? Would the US still exist as a single nation, or would a break-up of some kind be inevitable? Would Texas have become independent again, as it did OTL? And what would Mexico look like today? Plus what about the rest of the world?
 
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Ah yeah, De La Vega. Can't stand the bastard. Anyway, for the Mexicans to lose I'd say you'd need a much weaker leader than Augustin I. Maybe if that Snata Anna guy won? An American victory would definitely mean the nation would have split apart, perhaps sooner. You really think they would have been able to stabilize all that territory? Plus, Mexico would probably join the war on the side of the South, unlike in OTL, to get back its lost territories. Unless Tejas joined the CSA...
 
Ah, yes, Mexican-style Constitutional Imperialism. Yes, I think we would all be happier if they brought it back--having an emperor's worked well enough for Brazil, France, and Russia, after all, even if I am as die-hard a republican as any American. Do you really think Mexico would have sided with the Confederates, though? The 1840s were a tumultuous time for everyone. Unless perhaps you think the war would have been delayed? Brazil only outlawed slavery in the 1880s; a war that late could have been devastating for the United States, if it faced a strong Mexico alongside the Confederates (I'm holding military and industrial development fairly constant, of course). Heck, we might even have seen an earlier Pan-European War, if France came in on our side and Britain on theirs (it was a close-run thing in real life, as you know). Everyone always predicts a World War next, rather than just a repeat of the continental wars of the last century (I guess there's that historian at Harvard who argues that the conflicts of the 1920s and -30s were just a single war played out in sequence in a series of different continental theaters, but that's typical academic quibbling). Who knows? We might have seen a real Big One in this time-line.

I think the Mexicans would ally with the CSA out of pragmatism, frankly. And yeah, speaking as a Prussian, monarchy is definitely the way to go. I mean, after the First European War we abolished ours and combined into the German National Republic, and, well, that led us on our whole mad quest to take over all of Europe. The funny thing is that I think Vega is kind of like the leaders of Nationalist Germany, but whatever. I do actually subscribe to that theory, given that China and Germany were very much close, and Germany essentially took advantage of China distracting Russia in the east to take out France. By the time Russia had defeated China, Germany was ready to attack them. And don't even get me started on the Brits.
 
Yeah, Russia was pretty much our ally after 1933, when right wing extremism in Prussia and Germany ended once and for all. This was just formalizing the relationship. Weird that you refer to the Germans as the Prussians, though; yes, Prussia was the heart of the pangermanic Revolution, but I don't like the tendency of some historians outside of Prussia to call Nationalist Germany "Prussia". Nationalist Germany wasn't some Prussian Empire, it was an equal partnership between all the Germanies. I hate how people from Bavaria, or Saxony, or Hannover, or Austria especially, try to absolve themselves of guilt by blaming it all on us Prussians. German troops from all over massacred Poles by the thousands. German troops from all over committed the Rape of Minsk. German troops from all over publically executed the entire French Parlemant and all the members of the Imperial Family who couldn't get away in time. Anyway, rant over; it's just something that irks me.
 
Eh, yeah, though, as I said, I've got ties to the Palatinate, and they don't much like the Prussians there, so maybe I'm getting an incomplete picture. Remind me how the government is set up over there? I've never completely understood it, though I gather it's not totally different from our arrangement.

OOC: Do you mean Orussia, or the Palatinate?

IC: It's a weird little system where the King of Prussia works together with the Reichstag to decide policy, but they both have a relatively even amount of power, unlike in Turkey, which is a crowned Republic, or Russia, where the Duma is a rubber stamp for the Tsar.
 
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