DBWI Constantinople falls

The Prince of Novgorod, Peter the Great, did claim to be Roman Emperor for a while when he built the abortive Greco-Roman-styled city "St. Petersburg" on the Black Sea. However, that obviously didn't pan out.

If you go to Petersborg today you can still see most of the intact “Russian Old Town.” Of course, it’s dwarfed in size by the “Swedish New Town” on the other side of the river.
 
how would the the Pope in Rome react to the fall would that have been a call for a crusade?

The Kavarna Crusade happened IOTL because of the obvious threat the Bulgarians posed to Constantinople, so it falling would certainly spark one as well. Of course, he was also motivated by the Emperor in Constantinople formally converting to Catholicism and asking for aid...
 
Also, how would this affect Venice? IOTL, it used the continued disunity of the region to further its interests, and, as mentioned, made Byzantium its virtual puppet. If the Ottomans managed to reunite and take Constantinople, maybe even the title of the Roman Empire, how long could Venice’s empire in the east last?
 
Also, how would this affect Venice? IOTL, it used the continued disunity of the region to further its interests, and, as mentioned, made Byzantium its virtual puppet. If the Ottomans managed to reunite and take Constantinople, maybe even the title of the Roman Empire, how long could Venice’s empire in the east last?

Well, I guess Venice would just have funded Greek uprises before the Turkish culture mashes with the Greek culture, even if Constantinople falls, they would still have a solid half century before cultural conversion. I mean, they did the same with Copts when they had to deal with the Mamluks.
 
If you go to Petersborg today you can still see most of the intact “Russian Old Town.” Of course, it’s dwarfed in size by the “Swedish New Town” on the other side of the river.
The whole Swedish conquest period and Carolus Rex' March To The Sea still boggle the mind.

The Kavarna Crusade happened IOTL because of the obvious threat the Bulgarians posed to Constantinople, so it falling would certainly spark one as well. Of course, he was also motivated by the Emperor in Constantinople formally converting to Catholicism and asking for aid...
Bulgarians also launched a brief raid into Bosnia; later, rallying Skanderbeg (more often known as Muhammad al-Alban) and the crypto-Bogomil "St. Davud" against the Catholics in Croatia. Skanderbeg temporarily occupied Venetian Istria. This is argued by some to be the true impetus of the Kavarna Crusade.

Well, I guess Venice would just have funded Greek uprises before the Turkish culture mashes with the Greek culture, even if Constantinople falls, they would still have a solid half century before cultural conversion. I mean, they did the same with Copts when they had to deal with the Mamluks.
Arguably the Maronites in Lebanon were used as a Venetian proxy for some time as well. If Constantinople fell they probably would have been assimilated by the Egyptians or Turks.
 
The whole Swedish conquest period and Carolus Rex' March To The Sea still boggle the mind.

It’s like the Swedish took the idea of Dominum Maris Baltici and said, “Yes, but what if it included all of Germany as well?”

The craziest damn part is that if the Austrian light cavalry hadn’t arrived at the last minute at the Battle of Munich they might have actually succeeded.

And the March to the Sea? The greatest bit of military maneuvering of all time in my opinion. Oxenstierna’s genius withdrawal from Bavaria all the way up to Pomerania after Munich without more than a few hundred casualties allowed the Swedish Empire to survive the devastating loss at Munich.

Bulgarians also launched a brief raid into Bosnia; later, rallying Skanderbeg (more often known as Muhammad al-Alban) and the crypto-Bogomil "St. Davud" against the Catholics in Croatia. Skanderbeg temporarily occupied Venetian Istria. This is argued by some to be the true impetus of the Kavarna Crusade.

It’s probably true—there’s a saying from that era that the Papacy’s checkbook was kept in the Doge’s Palace. If Venice asked, the Catholic Church would obey, as was proven over and over again.

Kavarna essentially prevented Bulgaria from being anything more than a local power. Hell, if it hadn’t been for their Crimean allies they would have been crushed by the Poles and Serbs more than once during the sixteenth century.
 
Kavarna essentially prevented Bulgaria from being anything more than a local power. Hell, if it hadn’t been for their Crimean allies they would have been crushed by the Poles and Serbs more than once during the sixteenth century.

Oooow, so that's why the Bulgarians fled to Georgia instead of Poland-Hungary after the Sack of Vidin by Rumelia. Never got why they chose a long travel by boat instead of just going North. By the way, do you think Anatolian Ottomans would do better than just getting crushed on the walls of Tbilissi if their Western counterpart took Constantinople ?
 
Oooow, so that's why the Bulgarians fled to Georgia instead of Poland-Hungary after the Sack of Vidin by Rumelia. Never got why they chose a long travel by boat instead of just going North. By the way, do you think Anatolian Ottomans would do better than just getting crushed on the walls of Tbilissi if their Western counterpart took Constantinople ?

Yeah, and this reminds me: how well could they do in the east in general? I remember some ATL where the Ottomans reunite, manage to conquer Constantinople, then united almost the entire Islamic world under their rule. Could this be possible, or is this just wishful thinking at best?
 
Yeah, and this reminds me: how well could they do in the east in general? I remember some ATL where the Ottomans reunite, manage to conquer Constantinople, then united almost the entire Islamic world under their rule. Could this be possible, or is this just wishful thinking at best?

To be honest the only timeline I've red concerned Mehmed II taking Constantinople and then reuiniting Ottomans, but IMHO it was just some unexperienced author placing a Mary Sue under the Rumelian crown
 
Yeah, and this reminds me: how well could they do in the east in general? I remember some ATL where the Ottomans reunite, manage to conquer Constantinople, then united almost the entire Islamic world under their rule. Could this be possible, or is this just wishful thinking at best?

To be fair the Georgians having their post-Timurid revival was only thanks to a series of extremely successful rulers that centralized the kingdom and played the stronger nations around them against each other. It took the Crimeans marching seventy thousand men into the Caucasus to finally break them.
 
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