DBWI: Colombine bombs did not go off

OCC because they've been dead a lot time and weren't Americans it meant less? we've had 9/11 PODs, also its been 12 years at what point is in no longer "too soon"
OOC: Emotionally, yeah. That's how the human brain works. Things are horrible, but distance murkies the painful side and makes it academic. Generalities do that too; if its a handful of faces, it becomes very real. If its a mass of hundreds or thousands or millions, it becomes murky in the mind and becomes academic (unless you knew someone in that mass of people). Do whatever you want, but I just really do not like this topic and when people take things like this and make it a DBWI.
 
Bin Laden was a crazy jack ass in cave in some 3rd world Stan (Uzbekistan?) Mohammed Atta and his boys seemed to think a van-bomb in the parking under the WTC would bring it down :rolleyes: it was a silly plot that likely wouldn't of killed any one, as for the Oklahoma City thing, that was just a right wing loonie who thought a truck full of fertilizer could blow up that federal office :rolleyes:

and all that worrying about bombs left every one blind to air attacks, like the guy that put a light plane full of gas and TNT into the IRS building in DC.

OOC: I'm talking about the 'dry run' Atta and his budz took before committing 9/11. The WTC was ALREADY truck bombed in 1993 by Al Queida... it killed 7 and was a 'failure'. OBL wouldn't try it again... Columbine happened in 1999, Oklahoma City in 1995... I think the POD is in 1999 so OKC would already have happened.

IC: Umm... I think you're mixing up the grander 1993 truck bombing schemes by Khalid Mohammed with the 2001 attempts to hijack four commercial airliners and fly them into those buildings... They had figured out how to get the box cutters onboard and if it wasn't for 12 passengers including actor James Woods reporting their suspicious behavior on their August 1, 2001 'dry run' they could have pulled it off...

Commercial airliners are different from the single engine Cessna Will Thompson crashed into the IRS building as well. He combined the 9/11 attacks with the 1994 Cessna attack on the White House. :(
 
Umm... I think you're mixing up the grander 1993 truck bombing schemes by Khalid Mohammed with the 2001 attempts to hijack four commercial airliners and fly them into those buildings... They had figured out how to get the box cutters onboard and if it wasn't for 12 passengers including actor James Woods reporting their suspicious behavior on their August 1, 2001 'dry run' they could have pulled it off...

Commercial airliners are different from the single engine Cessna Will Thompson crashed into the IRS building as well. He combined the 9/11 attacks with the 1994 Cessna attack on the White House. :(

sorry the 90s is all a wee bit fuzzy for me, as for the hijacking, I'm unsure that box-cutters would be enough to control the people on the plane if they really were going to fly them into things, plus leadership of these groups like to claim that their foot soldiers are willing to do far more than these young men have the nerve for, we've seen it in Europe, train, bus and plane hijackers from both left-wing national groups and Islamic groups, they're suppose to blow them up or whatever but they always seem to negotiate their way out, I think thats what would of gone down, one crazy with a bomb might be willing to die and kill a ton of people with them, but where would you find 19 split up onto 4 or 5 planes that'd do that?
 
I think no one wants to admit there is something wrong with their kids or the way they're raising them, the Dems have raised it half-heartedly but the GOP is hell-bend on believing its all the media's fault

That is so true, and not only that, but the recent revival of tough-love B.S.{including corporal punishment} in the inner cities since around 2000 or so would also explain the enormous spike in the crime rates in those areas, particularly amongst African Americans. In some places, it got so bad, that many good parents of all races have started to flee these areas to get away from all the bad influences. The father of a family of 4 I know here in Dallas told me that his brother was viciously beaten by another black man after he tried to intervene in a somewhat public domestic dispute{the perpetrator was brutally abusing his 9 year old son at the time}, and that in the part of Georgia where he originally came from, violence against children was at an all time high. He moved here shortly after that incident.

But there is some good news, though, a number of black parents are finally waking up to the B.S., and there are even some who've woken up and decided to actively combat this monster which threatens ALL children.
 
OOC: How did this thread turn into the U.S. becoming a paranoid police state?

OOC: I believe that the logic is that deadlier school violence leads to the U.S. public education becoming a paranoid police state, and what happens in our public schools tends to spread out into the wide world. Not that I would say its inevitable or even likely, but I would see it as plausible.
 

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OOC: I believe that the logic is that deadlier school violence leads to the U.S. public education becoming a paranoid police state, and what happens in our public schools tends to spread out into the wide world. Not that I would say its inevitable or even likely, but I would see it as plausible.

OOC: Same here. Plus, the Timing of the Incident would have really made such a thing possible, although I'm calling Bullshit on the firearms restrictions mentioned. They're out and out unconstitutional.
 
Maybe the OP here should be what if neither were ever picked on in the first place. Therefore they did not retaliate. Which would not lead to the mass of copycat and other vengeful school shootings that followed. In irony maybe Klebold and Harris would go on to start an anti-bullying organization or a stress relieving reallity game(shooting up your school or workplace is always an option).
 
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