DBWI: Bush is the republican nominee in 2000, not MCCain

How would the Spanish Ambassador under the Mccain administrator, George W. Bush handle America as the President or would he win the elections if he is the nominee in the year 2000 instead of Mccain?
 
He probably gets crushed, because I don't know why the American public would think the MLB Commissioner is qualified to be president.

He was governor of Texas back then.

Still, he would be in way over his head. He would have gotten crushed in the general election - there would just be too many mistakes on the campaign trail and in the debates.

W has a good heart. But he's weak and he's stupid, and this is a life and death game.
 
We lose two towers instead of one.

Mc Cain was on the ball enough to stop some of the hi jackers, which prevented the attack on the pentagon, the white house and one of the towers. Its a pity some escaped the net but to be fair people thought it would be another standard hi jacking instead of the murder spree 911 turned out to be.
 
We lose two towers instead of one.

Mc Cain was on the ball enough to stop some of the hi jackers, which prevented the attack on the pentagon, the white house and one of the towers. Its a pity some escaped the net but to be fair people thought it would be another standard hi jacking instead of the murder spree 911 turned out to be.

McCain also deserves credit for just sending in some Navy SEALs and Green Berets in a surgical operation to take out Bin Laden and his top deputies in a single operation, and not bogging down the U.S. in a long-term ground war in Afghanistan. Because when has that worked for anybody?
 
McCain also deserves credit for just sending in some Navy SEALs and Green Berets in a surgical operation to take out Bin Laden and his top deputies in a single operation, and not bogging down the U.S. in a long-term ground war in Afghanistan. Because when has that worked for anybody?
what about the Taliban? They refused the infamous ultimatum and then Mccain sends in the SEALs and leaving rather than kick 'em in the teeth? if someone doesn't open the door you kick the door and show the man that's holding the door you mean business.

The US is much stronger than the USSR, the US military would have eliminated insurgency and made that country a friend to the united states and democratic in 4 years tops, rather than putting them in the hate America camp. That's why I didn't vote for Mccain in '04
 
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what about the Taliban? They refused the infamous ultimatum and then Mccain sends in the SEALs and leaving rather than kick 'em in the teeth? if someone doesn't open the door you kick the door and show the man that's holding the door you mean business.

The US is much stronger than the USSR, the US military would have eliminated insurgency and made that country a friend to the united states and democratic in 4 years tops, rather than putting them in the hate America camp. That's why I didn't vote for Mccain in '04

Iraq took more than 4 years. Why wouldn't Afghanistan? Even though the shooting's ended, we still keep 300,000 troops in Iraq. And the Iranians, who we are arming and training, have been bogged down for a decade and a half.

McCain resisted the calls by some to do a complete regime overhaul in Iraq and to send a "skeleton" occupation force He went in big and went in strong from the get go, incorporated the defeated military into the occupation effort, gave the Iraqi troops a little pay raise, and after a few years pulled out half our forces there. At its peak, there were 1.1 million Iraqis, 650,000 Americans, and 300,000 Pashmerga (a total occupation force of 2.05 million), which was plenty enough to keep the whole thing together. But it's generally assumed that that regime's stability is dependent upon 300,000 US troops and the US government covering 10% of their budget. But hey, you've gotta love Baghdad Disneyland.
 
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I actually like Mccain as he continued the American Anti-China policy of Clinton and the manufacturing did not shift to china, there is a possibility that Bush might support china due to his dad.
 
I actually like Mccain as he continued the American Anti-China policy of Clinton and the manufacturing did not shift to china, there is a possibility that Bush might support china due to his dad.

I wonder what would happen if China were allowed into the WTO Pre-Crisis. Odds are, many of the manufacturing jobs that went to Mexico, Central America, and the DR due to CAFTA would go to China instead.

A poorer Central America would mean more immigration, which might mean more tensions in the US.
 
Who would have won in 2004? Gore obviously beats W but I don't see one party winning four straight times. Maybe McCain anyway since the GOP tends to nominate a previous runner up?
 
Who would have won in 2004? Gore obviously beats W but I don't see one party winning four straight times. Maybe McCain anyway since the GOP tends to nominate a previous runner up?

McCain's 2000 win was a bit of an upset. In 2000 the national GOP was disgraced so they had to look beyond Washington. Dubya fit the bill as a beltway insider who was far from Washington. McCain, meanwhile, was sufficiently maverick-ey that he was able to avoid being tarnished by Gingrich's antics.

In 2004 enough time would have passed that somebody else would get it. I think Senator Giuliani or Governor Pataki would be able to get the nomination by benefiting from the rally around the flag effect. Otherwise, maybe somebody like George Allen.


Chafee OTL managed to give McCain a black eye in the 04 primary by hammering him on deficits, foreign policy, and trade. But I think 30% in a two-way race was the highest he was gonna get and he wouldn't come anywhere close to that in a real competitive primary.
 
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