DBWI: Britain Wins WWII?

As we all know, after losing WWI, suffering under harsh German peace terms and eventually turning to that lunatic Mosley, Britain became very nationalistic and started the terrible event that was WWII. How could the world be different if they had won?
 
To win they'd really have to get Russia to come in on their side at the same time Italy did, not after the Italians were in full rout, if not getting France on their side

Beyond that they'd have to avoid bringing in the US and its 40% of global industry against them

Assuming they one, the US stays isolationist having avoided both wars

Germany is vastly reduced in size and power, how much is anyone's guess

Russia would still be a significant factor

India may be less messed up or may not be
 
I think it would require Britain to win WWI and Germany going all nationalist.

Personally, I wish we had won WWI. I'm sick and tired of people telling me I should be ashamed about something that happened over 40 years before I was born.
 
Would it mean the French-British rivalry would carry on? OTL the British and French proved they could get on, however they soon fell out before WWII. It was only really the fact that Britain was defeated by France and others that stopped it once and for all.
 

Freizeit

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We did win, in the long term; the UK is the largest economy in Europe and we lead the European Federation in all but name.
 
We did win, in the long term; the UK is the largest economy in Europe and we lead the European Federation in all but name.

Best explanation I've ever seen for how useless the Federation is. Running Europe from London is like running North America from Greenland.
 

Freizeit

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But seriously, the implausibility of Operation Kingfisher has been done over and over again. Assuming Britain manages to pull an extra million men out of its arse, somehow get the French on board and rebuild the navy to the point where it's able to enforce a blockade of the North Sea, the only chance the British have is to capture Germany's ports and starve a surrender. After that the only issue is keeping the Americans and Spviets out of the war, or at least preventing them from establishing a foothold on Britannia itself.
 
Best explanation I've ever seen for how useless the Federation is. Running Europe from London is like running North America from Greenland.
Not really, more like running it from Boston or New York.
The capital is in Geneva anyway...
 
Would they be able to hold onto Ireland in the scenario? The Great Irish Uprising of 1944 would probably had been butterflied away without the liberation of The Netherlands just 4 months before. That was their real down swing.

What if Britain had been successful in putting Franco back in control in 1945 after he had been ousted?

Maybe have Operation Untergang somehow fail? Though that is probably too late for a victory.
 
Mosley would have to halt his ridiculous persecution of the Irish for that not to happen, and I don't think we'll see that.
 

Freizeit

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Mosley would have to halt his ridiculous persecution of the Irish for that not to happen, and I don't think we'll see that.

You could always have Mosley avoid being shot in the arm by that Irishman in the Somme, or simply have his attempts to cover up his Irish ancestry fail. With no reason to hate the Irish Mosley wouldn't bother invading in 1935 and would have an extra 200,000 men to attack Germany with rather than subduing Irishmen for the duration of the war.
 
You could always have Mosley avoid being shot in the arm by that Irishman in the Somme, or simply have his attempts to cover up his Irish ancestry fail. With no reason to hate the Irish Mosley wouldn't bother invading in 1935 and would have an extra 200,000 men to attack Germany with rather than subduing Irishmen for the duration of the war.




OOC: So the Irish = Jews and Ireland = Israel in this whole scenario?
 
This could very easily be done by having Britain win the battle of Paris. They very nearly pulled it off.

If that arse Harris hadn't assured Mosley that the Eighth Army could be resupplied entirely by air, they probably would have. If that had happened, the Germans, already near collapse after the Ploesti Fire proved impossible to put out (you'd be amazed by how much our schoolbooks try to skirt over the fact that 20,000 people went up in smoke with all that oil as well), would have been broken on the major front and Mosley would have been dictating terms to Thalmann in Berlin by the following Christmas.

Not treating the French like vermin when they initially welcomed the Brits as liberators would have helped, too - the French had a truly shitty couple of decades from the War of Franco-German Union (officially the least desirable endgame for any war in history, and they managed it - proof that real life is ASB) until 1945.
 
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