DBWI: Best President of the US?

OOC: This is set in the Decades of Darkness TL

IC: Who do you think was the best President in American history? Personally I find it a tossup between George Washington, Lewis Mitchell, and Salvador Allende? What do you think?
 
Either Washington, or Adams, the last good president before Jefferson broke the union with the Intolerable Embargo and the bastard slavers took over.
 

birdboy2000

Banned
John Adams. And if you damn jackals had re-elected him, maybe the US would be a free nation like New England today.
 
John Adams. And if you damn jackals had re-elected him, maybe the US would be a free nation like New England today.
Not necessarily. Jefferson could still have been elected after Adams, and could have still gone through the same processes again - the Embargo Act and everything - as OTL, and still died due to the stress in 1809.
 
Not necessarily. Jefferson could still have been elected after Adams, and could have still gone through the same processes again - the Embargo Act and everything - as OTL, and still died due to the stress in 1809.

The United States was doomed from the beginning. Adams, at least, was able to hold it together as long as he could. Jefferson, as inspiring as his ideology was, was a horrible administrater, as history showed. Honestly, its all about the Dombecks, Thomas and Matthew. Hail Canada!
 
The United States was doomed from the beginning. Adams, at least, was able to hold it together as long as he could. Jefferson, as inspiring as his ideology was, was a horrible administrater, as history showed. Honestly, its all about the Dombecks, Thomas and Matthew. Hail Canada!

If it weren't for the Dombecks and certain others, Canada wouldn't have been able to shed the illegal monarchist shackles and most likely would've turned into a vassal state of the U.S.

But now, in 1988, not only is our territory still intact(granted, both Ontario AND Quebec did try to break away at one point), we now even dominate good sections of the former United States, now that that country has ceased to exist in any formal sense(although a few successor states do exist and many countries are now beginning to recognize them, in some cases, as part of one entity; Birdboy2000, you did say you were from South Africa at one point in another thread, did you not?); Cahokia & Illinois[1], as well as Wyoming, were admitted as full provinces in 1979, and from what I hear, Alaska will be in our hands as well by 1992.

The biggest problem right now, IMO, is all the U.S. war criminals still running around. Haven't been able to catch very many since 1977[2].

Also, Baron Harkonnen, I'd like to inform you that Salvador Allende was killed in 1944 while the Rebellion Wars were still going on. The Jackals REALLY hated that guy.

[1]Cahokia consists of the former states of Wilkinson, Nebraska, and Iowa, and Illinois now owns the former Indiana.
[2]The U.S. went thru a disastrous civil war which finally broke the nation in 1977.
 
Even worse, a New Englander with roots in Wisconsin.

Hey, don't you diss the Land of Cheese now. Besides, my grandma's from Chicago[1], with New England roots to boot!

[1]Dearborn was almost totally destroyed in the Canadian War of Independence. Starting in 1924, it was not only to be built back up, but given its old name back.
 
Hey, don't you diss the Land of Cheese now. Besides, my grandma's from Chicago, with New England roots to boot!

I meant from his, presumably American, perspective. I don't have a problem with Wisconsin, although as a New Englander, Vermont will always be the Land of Cheese to me. :p
 
I meant from his, presumably American, perspective. I don't have a problem with Wisconsin, although as a New Englander, Vermont will always be the Land of Cheese to me. :p

S'Okay. Vermonters always have made some pretty darn good cheese, though. ;)

I am really glad that the United States is dead. It carried on that barbaric trade of slavery for a long time.

Not entirely, though: U.S. was forced to abandon indentured labor in 1945 after the disastrous South American Wars ended; although TBH, that only lasted just under 2 decades before it was reborn in '64; President Camden's plane was blown up over the airport in Porter City, Texas[1], was blamed on a former slave from West Florida and a peon from Honduras and that was the end of that; this, BTW, was one of the things that finally started the Civil War.

[1]Possible slight divergence: there seems to be no mention of East Texas after 1919 in the original, so I thought it'd be okay to add that in there: i.e. the state renamed in honor of the old Texas Republic.
 
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