He didn't even come close to Clinton who win with 2705 delegates
The margin was 2,317 Delegates Clinton to 2,098 Obama; it was a very close race.
He didn't even come close to Clinton who win with 2705 delegates
A white woman,skin color matters more than gender to many in America
He didn't even come close to Clinton who win with 2705 delegates
As for McCain, would it be possible he'd have gone with a riskier VP pick had Obama won the nomination? in OTL he felt safe going with his original and ultimate choice of Romney due to it being a race of issues between him and Clinton, if Obama was the nominee and had continued his change narrative from his campaign; McCain might have picked someone else to try and counter that.
Oh, you're talking about Lieberman, aren't you?![]()
Lieberman would have been either a hit or a miss, likely a miss. On one hand he was one of the Democratic candidates for VP gone renegade, but he also lost and can dampen McCain's image being a former Dem and all.
McCain could pick a woman VP if Obama wins the nominee to soak up some female votes. Either Bachmann or that Alaskan governor (forget the name, sorry).
IMHO the only person who could provide McCain with a slam-dunk ticket was Powell, but that never materialized. Hear he is considering running in 2016 though, so that's probably a good sign of things.![]()
Oh please. We have a women POTUS. We could elect anyone we wanted to if they were qualified enough.
While Hillary's work across party borders is is sparse but functional. (Though I won't say it hasn't had its ups and down). I think a lot of Hillary's success is a result of the semi-decent working relationship she has with the republicans. And yes, I know that working relationship has broken down many times, and yes the Republican has dug in and defended some of their core issues a number of times as well. But overall the they've managed to compromise on a number of important issues.
As I understand it from this thread Obama leans far more to the right in the Democrats in comparison to Hillary. It might mean that Obama would have a really good working relationship with the Republicans compared to Hillary's semi-functional one.
Hard to say about 2012 and 2016. I think the Republicans would go for a left leaning moderate (as far as republicans go), and an attempt to snatch up a lot of the middle of the road moderates vote as well as the traditional Republican vote. So a solid and honest social conservative to pander to the traditional republican voting block, with "left leaning" moderate economic policy to snatch up a lot of right leaning moderate Democrat voters.
Unless he fucks up colossally, Obama will probably be a two termer, two termers are far more common then not in the last few decades.
Not only would Obama have defeated McCain, Obama would immediately be awarded the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize!!
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Hey, a man can dream, can't he?
But seriously though, I agree we would definately have seen a Republican president in 2012 once the magic wears off and Obama's lack of experience becomes painfully obvious. His presidency would likely have been a big disappointment unfortunately.