DBWI: Apple Corps fizzles out

Also, George was instrumental in signing up Fleetwood Mac in 1969, back when they were a rising blues band and Mick Fleetwood also happened to be George's brother in law. It was also great the Beatles signed up Queen after 1970, having recognised the charisma and amazing vocals of Freddie Mercury.
Yep. If they weren't under the same roof, Stevie Nicks and Freddie Mercury probably wouldn't have had that duet on that one Queen album. And wasn't it Ringo's idea to absorb Swan Song records? They were struggling and Ringo wanted to let them survive, so Swan Song was absorbed into Apple as a subsidiary label with it's own artists.
 
Yep. If they weren't under the same roof, Stevie Nicks and Freddie Mercury probably wouldn't have had that duet on that one Queen album. And wasn't it Ringo's idea to absorb Swan Song records? They were struggling and Ringo wanted to let them survive, so Swan Song was absorbed into Apple as a subsidiary label with it's own artists.
Yeah all of that might be loss.
 
I hate to be *that guy*, but no Led Zep on Apple could mean that the Jeff Beck Group stays together longer - and The Who for that matter.. which would be pretty good for hard rock.

The runaway success of Led Zeppelin in 1969 put a lot of pressure on those bands - infighting pretty much torpedoed Beck's band, but the drinking and drugs situation in The Who - especially with Keith - was appalling. If they hadn't lost Keith in 1970, I think their next album would've been something.

To be honest, no other label even cared about what Jimmy Page was doing post-Yardbirds. Remember that quote from Ahmet Ertegun (Atlantic Records) after he heard their demo?

"Every band these days wants to be loud. It's the new 'Flower Power'..."

It's very easy to imagine them just gigging a bit, then falling apart & being some obscure cult band.. especially since Jimmy was pretty much managing them himself until Apple stepped in.

[OOC - sorry guys, this was veering a little close to "too good to be true".. I'm a big Who fan, but this DBWI needed some dark. ]
(OOC: I'm not sure I understand
 
John Lennon for all of his faults has one very important virtue.

He's always been good to talent, Apple is many ways a reaction against the very real explotation the beatles experienced in their field. The company works hard to make sure their artists are treated right and that's why their so successful. Say what you will about his business practices but Johns always been good to the artists and works hard to be good to even the lowest employees.

Its just that he's completely rutheless to the competition who he often says are unethical monsters.
 
And wasn't it Ringo's idea to absorb Swan Song records? They were struggling and Ringo wanted to let them survive, so Swan Song was absorbed into Apple as a subsidiary label with it's own artists.
That is definitely one of the best things about of Apple Corps. They will help struggling talent, even if its a loss to them, and help make them profitable. Without them there are numerous major artists would probably have never made it in the music industry.
 
That is definitely one of the best things about of Apple Corps. They will help struggling talent, even if its a loss to them, and help make them profitable. Without them there are numerous major artists would probably have never made it in the music industry.
And they were the ones who embraced lo-fi outsider music with their mail system in the 80s, right?
 
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I think Apple Corp being such as success was a big part in the Beatles making it into the 70s (and the 80s). Though I'm much more of a fan of their 60s material, have you heard Sonic Ray?!? One of the best albums of the late 70s. But The Daily Howl on the other hand...

Anyways I think without Apple Corp being such a success they would've broken up earlier, WAY earlier. Maybe the early 70s?
 
I think Apple Corp being such as success was a big part in the Beatles making it into the 70s (and the 80s). Though I'm much more of a fan of their 60s material, have you heard Sonic Ray?!? One of the best albums of the late 70s. But The Daily Howl on the other hand...

Anyways I think without Apple Corp being such a success they would've broken up earlier, WAY earlier. Maybe the early 70s?
I like The Daily Howl. The Calming Sound (Of A Distant Train) is one of George's masterworks.
 
Ugh but the synthesisers... I get what they were trying to do but they didn't do it right at all. Although that and Seven Days (A Light Year) are really the only good songs on there.
Well think of it this way. If the Beatles never made The Daily Howl, they never would have made Love For All, and everyone loves that album
 
Well think of it this way. If the Beatles never made The Daily Howl, they never would have made Love For All, and everyone loves that album
Yeah but Love For All was really a response to the negative reception that The Daily Howl got. Most of those songs date back to the early 70s. They basically did what the Stones did with Tattoo You. Although I love that album too.
 
Yeah but Love For All was really a response to the negative reception that The Daily Howl got. Most of those songs date back to the early 70s. They basically did what the Stones did with Tattoo You. Although I love that album too.
And people love the collab album and TV special they did with the stones after Love For All. And people say they were rival bands smh
 
I thought the collab album was cheesy as hell but they were having fun during the TV special so I let it slide.
Fun cheese is the best kind of cheese. Isn't that the message of a bunch of the films Ringo was in for Apple Films in the 70s and 80s? They were silly, but they knew and had fun with it. Who doesn't love Umbrella?
 

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Its just that he's completely rutheless to the competition who he often says are unethical monsters.
Lennon's approach to Intellectual Property Protection, that were rightly said to side with the Artists themselves instead of the Records, definitely put them at odds with other (mostly American) Recording Companies, causing the Copyright Laws dispute between British and American Laws.
 
Lennon's approach to Intellectual Property Protection, that were rightly said to side with the Artists themselves instead of the Records, definitely put them at odds with other (mostly American) Recording Companies, causing the Copyright Laws dispute between British and American Laws.

the RIAA never recovered or forgave Apple from backing Napster and causing them to lose that case.

The artist permission clause is still a part of copy right protection laws to this day dispite the lobbying.
 

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the RIAA never recovered or forgave Apple from backing Napster and causing them to lose that case.

The artist permission clause is still a part of copy right protection laws to this day dispite the lobbying.
Well, what Lennon propose, and made into law in UK, and most European + Commonwealth Countries (to many filesharing sites) are rather application of common sense, really. The general rule of twenty years not hosting/sharing Songs/Albums/Music Videos from the time they were launched (unless with said artists' open and verified permission) already caused Napster to scrub most of their list of songs while preserving the Classics forever.

Hell, Lennon even give Napster the high-fidelity copies of the Beatles' old classics for free to sweeten the deal, while RIAA keep trying to commercialize old songs definitely caused deep divide between two groups of musicians, those who keep trying to really commercialize their old songs and those who deem twenty years old or older songs is a fair game to be shared.
 
Another Apple standout the Beatles signed around 1969 is Yes. Lennon did a fabulous job producing their classic albums The Yes Album, Fragile, and Close to the Edge.
 
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