A total exaggeration. To get to California, the US would have double the land, true, but most of northern Mexico (which ITTL would be the western US) is uninhabitable, except for a few oasis towns like Lake Yuta City. Sure, there’s the oil in Northern Texas, but that’s insufficient to make the US a world police force like Britain was until recently.


Brittian may have lagged behind in the last few years but they still hold plenty of influence not to mention the coalition against Ruskies but the US could always grab Alaska if they have Acesss to the pacific plenty of oil there
 
I wonder how Race relations would develop with a US claim to the west coast I shudder at the thought of how the USA would treat Asian immigrants if they had a claim on the west coast.


Maybe Sacramento would serve as a provincial capital? San Diego is the better choice but I know there were conversations about it during the early stages of the republic


Even Takei talked about changing the capital during his term from 2004-2012 I know the bear party absolutely refused but Sacramento could work in the right situation
 

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America has recovered since the betreyal by you Californian Communists and Deseret Heretics. We boast the 2nd largest economy in the world, the American people having the fasting growing natural population in the West coast,and stretches from the Yukon to the Rio Grande in the South. We don't need you anymore.

OOC: this is a good DBWI
It's a shame that Russia changed its mind about the Alaska Purchase at the last minute, though. :(

Also, Yes, California appears to be largely useless to the U.S. even if the U.S. actually could acquire it.
 
It's a shame that Russia changed its mind about the Alaska Purchase at the last minute, though. :(

Also, Yes, California appears to be largely useless to the U.S. even if the U.S. actually could acquire it.

Perhaps they could use it as a refueling station? If the second Anglo-American war still happens perhaps they use it in order to blockade British holdings in the Pacific? I’m going to assume that the Edward Islands are still under the control of the Brittish with an American California

OOC:Edward Islands are OTL Hawaii
 
Last week was Caliipendence day and after queens visit last week I’m feeling proud to be a Californian but the tensions between Russia and India seem almost too hard to bear right now
I’m old enough for the draft now which is why this is of particular concern but we have to hope for the best right?
 
Last week was Caliipendence day and after queens visit last week I’m feeling proud to be a Californian but the tensions between Russia and India seem almost too hard to bear right now
I’m old enough for the draft now which is why this is of particular concern but we have to hope for the best right?

I feel for you. I live in Nephi. A city in southern Deseret. They called me and six hundred others from my city to go through basic military training. I think my countries warming up for something.
 
I’ve lived in the California republic for most of my life and after my boyfriend who is a Scotsman himself moved here he said that the USA was close to annexing California.I laughed at the thought of it after all California has a domain over the Pacfic ocean that’s almost untouched not to mention the fact that the USA hasn’t been in the best state after the civil war no insult to any Americans visiting this thread.But anyway how much would the us have to do to annex California and it’s territorys?

Honestly, it would be interesting to see possible knock-on effects of such a development. For one, it's very true that California is one of the most liberal countries out there-though the Commonwealth of Canada does comes rather close-so it's loss might potentially have some undesired results-but what if an *American California underwent a similar development, perhaps?

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I found this map on reddit one of the worst ameriwanks ive seen on this form to be quite honest and an independent korea is just ASB not to mention the cluster fuck of Africa here




OOC:Map of this TTL is right here give judgments and stuff i threw this together last night and im going to rework it eventually but what do you guys thinks(Also ignore wacky file names because it was 2 am)Feel free to add backstory to where ever you want too but this is just intended to be a fun DBWI that might be an eventual TLView attachment 349594

OOC: I do like the map, TBH.
 
Hmm, perhaps if the US got all of Louisiana they might have got involved in the Mexican Wars and got California from that? Unlikely all of it though.
 
Honestly, it would be interesting to see possible knock-on effects of such a development. For one, it's very true that California is one of the most liberal countries out there-though the Commonwealth of Canada does comes rather close-so it's loss might potentially have some undesired results-but what if an *American California underwent a similar development, perhaps?



OOC: I do like the map, TBH.
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I have a feeeling the settlement of wasps may turn it much more conservative then in OTL will an American California butterfly away the second American war of indepdence?
 
Bleh has anyone else here heard about Russia’s declaration of war on the Persia-Arabian Union? I know President Takei is trying to avoid war breaking out but after the capture of the ambassador I’m kinda scared tbqh
 
I feel for you. I live in Nephi. A city in southern Deseret. They called me and six hundred others from my city to go through basic military training. I think my countries warming up for something.
OOC:Deseret is a autonomous part of California much like a native tribe or something like that but still part of it

The queen warned the leader of the Euro-Labour Union that if they didn’t pull out of war with the Persian-Arabian Union war would be declared

I know the Germans are in Europe but the Franco-Iberian Union worry’s me more then the Russians do

War scares are ever too common theese days

Nothing can be as bad as the war scare with Patagonia and Brazil as crazy as the Brazilians may act on occasion the Patagonian fundementalists are much much worse.Hopefully calmer heads will prevail but president Mattis of the USA has been quite pro Russian and I don’t think a war like the Young mans war is good for anyone
 
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If anything the USA would get Oregon
I’m not sure Brittian would let them grab it after all the trouble they went through to get it
Where's Oregon?
I assume that if the US did get all Louisiana they would be immediate neighbours when each of the Mexican Wars break out that led to Californian independence/protection and confirmation of the Columbia region under Britain.

OOC: by Mexican Wars I'm lumping together all the rebellions and civil wars in Mexico/New Spain.
I'm also classing that previous map as an oversimplification - too much spacefilling!
 
@Gentleman Biaggi I know you were talking about Canada setting up nukes in Greenland with France moving towards Italy
Yes. As a Greenlandic immigrant I have written a lot about the Providence in the past (remember my TL about if Motzfeldt's Labor Party beat the pro-Canadian Freedom Party). My main question is about America having power in Greenland. With the west coast now America's, wouldn't it be possible for them to buy Greenland before Canada?
 
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