DBWI: Alternate History never become mainstream?

It would be a worse world, that's for sure.

As in, we here in Lithuania would never have gotten "Karalius Vytautas" as a full length film. Amazing script, great acting by Andrius Mamontovas as the protagonist and Mantas Jankavičius as Tsar Vasily - imagine if Donatas Ulvydas would never have gotten that movie out?

I know that Karalius Vytautas is barely known in the West, but it's big here, I'm telling you. It pretty much kickstarted the genre here.
 

oberdada

Gone Fishin'
Well I could easily do without all those WWIII reenacters and all those other crazy AH cosplay people...

They had a 67th anniversarry GDR parade this fall for god's sake...

EDIT: "67th" instead of "77th" , that would be a real crazy TL...
 
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It would be a worse world, that's for sure.

As in, we here in Lithuania would never have gotten "Karalius Vytautas" as a full length film. Amazing script, great acting by Andrius Mamontovas as the protagonist and Mantas Jankavičius as Tsar Vasily - imagine if Donatas Ulvydas would never have gotten that movie out?

I know that Karalius Vytautas is barely known in the West, but it's big here, I'm telling you. It pretty much kickstarted the genre here.

To be honest though, I liked that film, although the ending really irked me. Actually watering his horses in the Rhine is just ridiculous. Also I felt like the treatment of the Poles was a little harsh. I have to admit I loved the "Teutonic Order as Nazis" trope though, as obvious as it was. Not to mention somewhat inaccurate given the importance of religiosity to the Order.
 
To be honest though, I liked that film, although the ending really irked me. Actually watering his horses in the Rhine is just ridiculous. Also I felt like the treatment of the Poles was a little harsh. I have to admit I loved the "Teutonic Order as Nazis" trope though, as obvious as it was. Not to mention somewhat inaccurate given the importance of religiosity to the Order.
I believe most of the crazier events in the movie were meant to be metaphorical.

After all, it was made when national consciousness here was at it's highest.

OOC: wai u gotta do this to my dbwi
 

soundnfury

Banned
Gosh, what a horrible thought! Y'all can argue the social and political ramifications all you like, but — with no AH boom, us aviation / warbird fans would be having a really gloomy time of it. Not only would there be no Airfix or RC models of cancelled planes (my model P.1154 in "The Jump Jet War" decals is just the prettiest thing!), but there's a case to be made that the AH mainstreaming is responsible for the rise of flying replicas of real historical aircraft when there's no suitable original airframe to restore. The airshow circuit would be far duller without — to take just one high-profile example — HAC's replica Short Stirling "MacRobert's Reply IV", built for the film adaptation of this forum's own "Sterling Service" TL. (Sure, they mangled the plot horribly, pushing the historical plausibility almost into ASB territory — I mean, come on, a young Richard Attenborough made C-in-C Bomber Command? — but the aerial sequences were just gorgeous.)
 
Well, if AH isn't populkar, and with it, the rash of time travel stories, something else has to fill in the niche. It does seem that science fiction of the old school--TO THE STARS! has gone away. I'd love to see spaceflight, and humanity looking outwards to the stars, instead of rehashing every decision again and again.

Just as the 1960's Star Trek put contemporary social issues on trhe small screen in the future, some A/H is imposing modern issues on the past.

"Cargomaster: Jettison the time machine. All decks, prepare for hyperspace!"
 
AH caused the rise of Trump? Ahahaha, gentlemen, I think you're rather overestimating the influence of AH. I mean, it's big, don't get me wrong - but, you know, superheroes are still bigger, overall, and honestly the sheer quantity of AH movies is really causing a major downturn in viewing these days what with the sheer proliferation and lack of quality. Superhero movies have to have huge budgets to make a living - but AH doesn't require those big lavish budgets as much. Compare Dr. Strange to The Rise of the Progressives.

I like future history and well-written AH. I can't stand these slush-fluff so-called "just for fun" AHs that don't bother plausibility or realism.

Even Doctor Who is moving towards superheroes and future history - did you see the Christmas special and those leaks on the next series?

Then again, maybe I'm biased. I'm not into AH as much as I was - but if AH did play a part in the rise of Trump, it didn't play as big a one as people are crediting it with.
 
So, one right wing page says that they exploited the Mandela effect to make Trump lose the popular vote by 3 million.

What a shame.
 
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