DBWI AHC: Nazi victory in the 1940 Invasion of France:

I know, I know, Colonel and then later General Moor, modified those rules to work for Helos a generation later to great effect.

Well, OTOH, one can only wonder what would have happened if those damn planes had still been in Battleship row formation. :rolleyes: Not that Bonus Army MacArthur cared to acknowledge how he'd been spared one of the most ludicrous potential embarrassments any general would have ever had, albeit.
 
Well, by the 1980s the USA had changed in a *lot* of ways. IIRC when segregating the armed forces was struck down, it was just as the DADT movement showed up. It was very hard to argue in favor of that when segregating the armed forces by race had been struck down with no ill effects and to claim that GLBTQ individuals being integrated would do what abolishing some of the oldest regiments then in existence in the US Armed Forces would not.
That was not why the Army shrugged and nodded at my lady friends.

No gay man or lesbian woman will EVER get a local girl pregnant.

That is a lead pipe garuntee:D:D:D:D
 
Yeah, and that was the most ridiculous bit of the whole thing. I could see Japan actually handling the Philippines roughly, what with Douglas "Bonus Army" MacArthur in charge of it, given that guy pretty much screwed up IOTL, but to a lesser degree. I could even see the British having major issues in Malaya. What I can't see is either Pearl or Singapore, much less the Japanese failing right off the bat at Wake when they succeeded everywhere else.

And given the Japanese would have been impossibly outnumbered by a force we saw IOTL was more than able to inflict major, comprehensive defeats on Nazi Germany (Strafer Gott's Belgian Campaign of 1941 was a masterpiece, the guy is literally *the* British mechanized general of the war), I can't see the guys who kicked Hitler's ass IOTL getting beaten by the much weaker Japanese Army.

We all should be happy that Gott survived that plane crash. Imagine if Monty was taking over if Gott is dead or even serious wounded. Monty did not know how to attack - he would still sit and wait until someone attacks in 1944 - in case German has some super tank or similar ASB weapon...
 
Well, OTOH, one can only wonder what would have happened if those damn planes had still been in Battleship row formation. :rolleyes: Not that Bonus Army MacArthur cared to acknowledge how he'd been spared one of the most ludicrous potential embarrassments any general would have ever had, albeit.
Oh yeah ,that jerk was famous, if he won it was all him, it he lost it was because of his stupid cowardly incompatent men.

The very antetheis of how actual officers think.
 
We all should be happy that Gott survived that plane crash. Imagine if Monty was taking over if Gott is dead or even serious wounded. Monty did not know how to attack - he would still sit and wait until someone attacks in 1944 - in case German has some super tank or similar ASB weapon...

Yup. Not to mention how Strafer Gott conclusively proved that WWI had been a matter of communications and ratified what 1940 had already shown: Germany tactical superiority, if it existed, was for WWI reasons only. The WWII German army could be a beast in a major city, assuming its enemies didn't just besiege and bomb the Hell out of it (as ultimately happened after Nuremberg to some of the other cities until Berlin), but in the field? Gott put the fear of God in them (pun intended). I think that he may be the best British general of the 20th Century, if you ask me. Got greater results than say, Haig, and against an enemy trained to fight Continental war and reliant on fanaticism at the expense of common sense.

Oh yeah ,that jerk was famous, if he won it was all him, it he lost it was because of his stupid cowardly incompatent men.

The very antetheis of how actual officers think.

Yes, we were fortunate he faced Japan and not the Germans. Imagine MacArthur at the Battle of Nuremberg. :eek::eek::(
 
Yup. Not to mention how Strafer Gott conclusively proved that WWI had been a matter of communications and ratified what 1940 had already shown: Germany tactical superiority, if it existed, was for WWI reasons only. The WWII German army could be a beast in a major city, assuming its enemies didn't just besiege and bomb the Hell out of it (as ultimately happened after Nuremberg to some of the other cities until Berlin), but in the field? Gott put the fear of God in them (pun intended). I think that he may be the best British general of the 20th Century, if you ask me. Got greater results than say, Haig, and against an enemy trained to fight Continental war and reliant on fanaticism at the expense of common sense.



Yes, we were fortunate he faced Japan and not the Germans. Imagine MacArthur at the Battle of Nuremberg. :eek::eek::(

Did you ever see that Gregory Peck "Biopic" about MacCarthur.

It was a brilliant piece of fiction.
 
Anyway, with my limited knowledge I have no idea how Spanky and Plaz can beat A world Spanning Empire that covers a quarter of the globe and a World power Republic that Germans lose wars to as a matter of tradition.
 
Did you ever see that Gregory Peck "Biopic" about MacCarthur.

It was a brilliant piece of fiction.

No I didn't. I'll see if I can find it on Youtube.

No i vote for Slim as the best Commonwealth general in the 19-hundreds.

OK, fair point. Slim got the best military performance. I think we can both agree that Strafer Gott is the best guy in the European war, however. His Belgian campaign destroyed an entire German army group dug into those "Festungen" with a minor portion of the casualties sustained after the crossing of the Rhine. IIRC the only reason the war lasted into 1944 at all after the fall of the Ruhr was Germany's reliance on the Skoda works and the pro-German tilt of Romania. And by 1944, at least part of the reason Berlin was the end of the whole thing was the USSR suddenly cutting off Germany from its supply base, at least if you believe books like Conquest's.

In a just world the Battle of the Ruhr would have been the end of WWII in Europe in 1941-2. Unfortunately we live IOTL where Hitler chose to prolong the war and kill a lot of people for nothing. :(
 
Anyway, with my limited knowledge I have no idea how Spanky and Plaz can beat A world Spanning Empire that covers a quarter of the globe and a World power Republic that Germans lose wars to as a matter of tradition.


:rolleyes: You need the spirit of 1871 add a few more divisions and knocking Imperial russia out of the war - and Imperial Germany wins WWI - only way Germany has a chance to suceed . But thats another AH story ;)
 
We all talk about how to get Nazi Germany to beat France, I have a question, how about a TL where the U.S> Doesn't have to wage culturcide in mainland Japan to end the pacific war.

I mean today there are japanese people, but their culture is literal carbon copy want to be of the U.S>
 
Let's thank God that this did not happen. If they defeated France they also would have destroyed the British mitary and then taken over the British Isles Without the distration of war, they wod have enslave the Jewish popation of Europez
 
Let's thank God that this did not happen. If they defeated France they also would have destroyed the British mitary and then taken over the British Isles Without the distration of war, they wod have enslave the Jewish popation of Europez
Yeah, let's not even talk about what they might have done to atlantic shipping.
 
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