DBWI AHC make Canada a democracy

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It would be quite difficult for the Dominion of Canada to remain a parliamentary monarchy, let alone a republic or democracy. It's always been home to reactionary émigrés--from the Empire Loyalists after the American Revolution, to House of Bourbon after the French Revolution, to the House of Hanover during the British War, to the 1848-1855 émigrés, to the House of Habsburg after the Fifth Defenestration, to the House of Hohenzollern after the Spartacist Revolution, to the White Russians after the Russian Revolution. There's a pattern there, and one that I think would be hard to break.

The Canadians have always focused on having a large class of nobility to organize the conquest of the plains, to staff the military officership and naval admiralty, and have always been the most jingoistic, monarchist, and loyalist parts of the British Empire since the Ten Years' War (the War of 1812/Second Revolution to Americans).

Canadian identity of course, was defined in opposition to the USA in the 19th century, and USSA in the 20th century, until the detente of the 70s. There's a reason why Empress Victoria II described Dominion of Canada as the "shield of the counter-revolution". For most of the late 19th and early 20th century, it really was.

How do you change that? I don't know, but averting the French Revolution sounds like a good start. At the very least, prevent Napoleon's British War.

Have the 92 resolutions be approved by the British, it would have been a fantastic base for a democratic Canada.
It would, but due to the anti-Francophone policy of the time (excepting the Bourbons), it's hard to see the Parti Patriote gaining support among the Anglophones, especially the nobility. The American intervention in the Lower Canada Rebellion, during the British monarchy's darkest hour, was probably the last chance for democratic movements to be seen as Canadians.

Ironically, if Thomas Storrow Brown and Jean-Olivier Chénier hadn't been deported to Australia, we could have a democratic Canada and a non-democratic Australia, instead of the other way around.
 

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God I wish there was timeline about that.
OOC: The Kaiserreich mods for Darkest Hour and Hearts of Iron IV are kind of similar. With a POD in WW1, the Entente retreats to Canada and French Algeria, while anarcho-syndicalists take over France and Britain. With the German Empire winning WW1, monarchism remains largely reactionary. In WW2, the Dominions ally with Germany against communist France.
 
OOC: The Kaiserreich mods for Darkest Hour and Hearts of Iron IV are kind of similar. With a POD in WW1, the Entente retreats to Canada and French Algeria, while anarcho-syndicalists take over France and Britain. With the German Empire winning WW1, monarchism remains largely reactionary. In WW2, the Dominions ally with Germany against communist France.
I'm familiar with them. Only have the HOI4 one though. There's also an AAR on the Paradox forums about the guys game as Canada in the Darkest Hour version. I forget the name but it has something to do about the Cold War and Atom bombs in the title. Things basically turn into the world you described.
 
Prevent the US from going communist as Canada was fairly democratic until then (albeit with authoritarian tendencies) and have either France or the German Empire"The Swords of Freedom and Democracy" go communist
 
Prevent the US from going communist as Canada was fairly democratic until then (albeit with authoritarian tendencies) and have either France or the German Empire"The Swords of Freedom and Democracy" go communist

Techically were a market economy with socialist policies, most of the state industries were privatized during the 1960s and 1970s. These days the only business's that are under government control are pretty much the very top end of the power companies, and the rail network, and even during the strongest socialist era it was only the comanding heights of the economy that was nationalized.

Farms, resturants, and numerious other business's remained in private hands, and a good chunk of the manufactering sector as well. We do have a strong union movement and you do have the consitutional right to unionize, but we need that because we don't have a minimum wage like Canada does. And the only reason why the socialist party came to power is because the rich got greedy and stupid during the great depression and formed a coup and murdered President FDR, and democrats in the senate and congress, and most of the surpreme court.

They played stupid games and we were forced to break corperate america's power, these days the worst excesses are firmly behind us. Were no more communist then the nordic countries. Its not our fault that Canada freaked out about an internal matter that didn't concern them.
 
I think you'd need to legislate against hockey. Otherwise, w/e forms of representative government you're trying to enact won't survive the first encounter with the feudal nobility, who can afford the expensive armour, weaponry, and lifetime training it took to make them essentially the first full-time hockey players since Sparta. Moreover, the nobility are much less likely to be demoralized when they get 2 minutes in the penalty box, inured as they are to the process, whereas your proletariat, however ardent he is in support of his cause, is much more likely to sit there and feel shame for having been judged so wanting.
 
They played stupid games and we were forced to break corperate america's power, these days the worst excesses are firmly behind us. Were no more communist then the nordic countries. Its not our fault that Canada freaked out about an internal matter that didn't concern them.
Didn't concern us!? American Corporations owned most of the Businesses in Canada. We couldn't just sit back and watch as the powerful men in our economy tried to takeover our largest Trade partner! We had to act! Not to mention the States have always wanted to conquer us. Well will beat you to it! It started with Alaska and it shall finish with Florida!
Never forget the Rape of York and Quebec! The War of 1812 SHALL BE AVENGED!!

TRUE NORTH STRONG AND GLORIOUS!!!
 
Didn't concern us!? American Corporations owned most of the Businesses in Canada. We couldn't just sit back and watch as the powerful men in our economy tried to takeover our largest Trade partner! We had to act! Not to mention the States have always wanted to conquer us. Well will beat you to it! It started with Alaska and it shall finish with Florida!
Never forget the Rape of York and Quebec! The War of 1812 SHALL BE AVENGED!!

TRUE NORTH STRONG AND GLORIOUS!!!

We purchased Alaska from the Russians and we haven't fought a war with Canada since 1812....also we out number you 18 to 1.

Seriously man relax were not out to get you.
 
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