DBWI: A Portuguese Colony in Eastern South America

I was just reading an old Portuguese book where it says that some Portuguese navigators could have reached the coast of OTL northern Pernambouc Republic (former France Antartique, independent from France in the 19th. century) by early 1500's, just a century early from the final integration of the Portuguese provinces to Spain.

Supposing that this ABS was true, how tiny, poor and now extinct Portugal would have managed a colony in the Eastern South America? How would they avoid the OTL French, Dutch invasions to that coast or manage the pressure from the Spanish colonies from the south?
 
I was just reading an old Portuguese book where it says that some Portuguese navigators could have reached the coast of OTL northern Pernambouc Republic (former France Antartique, independent from France in the 19th. century) by early 1500's, just a century early from the final integration of the Portuguese provinces to Spain.

Supposing that this ABS was true, how tiny, poor and now extinct Portugal would have managed a colony in the Eastern South America? How would they avoid the OTL French, Dutch invasions to that coast or manage the pressure from the Spanish colonies from the south?

I netsearched "Portugal" and found that it was one of the last countries to unify with the rest of Spain.

The problem is Portugal itself. It was a tiny, boring country next to what turned into the biggest empire ever. Sure, Portugal could have managed to hold a few villages on the cost of South America, just like other small countries like France, Denmark, Norway, Kurland, etc. Hell, even England (that medieval kingdom in Southern Britain that collapsed into civil war in the early 1600s) had a few islands in the Caribbean that later got taken by France. But seriously, if Spain could conquer the entire Italian peninsula, Portugal doesn't stand a chance.
 
Spain was the luckiest country in the world during the Modem Age....gold in Mexico, silver in Bolivia and when everybody thought that Spain was broken, they found Oro Negro in the mountains of eastern Paraguay....after Oro Negro, no one could mach Spain....
 
Well, obviously Spain would gain all of eastern South America, or at least most of it (people often forget about the Guyanas too, or New Caledonia along the Rivers Plate and Negro that Scotland established...granted, they're tiny specks on the whole continent next to the Spanish, French and Dutch takings but they still count :p).

For what it's worth, they still speak Portuguese in parts of Africa and Polynesia, but a large colony in South America was never in the books.
 
the french and British both had claims there, and after Spain lost that war, they had to relinquish most of their claims. The Spanish just refused to conscript like the French ("Chaque homme est un soldat") or press like the English, they were seriously lacking in manpower by the end of the war.
 
Well, obviously Spain would gain all of eastern South America, or at least most of it (people often forget about the Guyanas too, or New Caledonia along the Rivers Plate and Negro that Scotland established...granted, they're tiny specks on the whole continent next to the Spanish, French and Dutch takings but they still count :p).

For what it's worth, they still speak Portuguese in parts of Africa and Polynesia, but a large colony in South America was never in the books.

Last year I traveled to eastern Paraguay in a business trip....what a country....from the mountains from Oro Negro to the colder lands of La Piñeria in the south, passing thru the best coffee plantations in the world of the Añemby Province. The only problem was the language - Spanish is found only in the major cities...the countryside is all Guarani....
 
Sounds about right, Paraguay's a pretty interesting country in terms of climate and history. The fact that Guarani is still alive and thriving in the countryside is a testament to how "Indianized" they are there, even as a former Spanish colony.

Interestingly, even New Caledonia has its fair share of Guarani speakers in the parts laying north-west of the Negro River (along with quite a few Spanish speakers). It's still mostly Lowland Scots that's spoken in the capital and east of the river, but the immigrant communities there still speak several other languages, most notably Italian and French.

OOC: I'm establishing OTL's Uruguay as a Scottish-started country, with the area surrounding it being predominantly Spanish like Paraguay and Argentina, and Brazil I figure was split between Spain, the Netherlands and France.
 
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